Government

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BillC, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    The Gov. has never given me or anyone anything. They are very good at taking. They take other people's money and give it to other people and their seems to be some kind of delusion of the Gov. giving. When they go bankrupt, like Venezuela or governments in the past they take your crops, food and let you starve. Venezuela may have a 1,000,000 percent inflation rate this year. And they're eating zoo animals. Socialism fallen apart. You can have pure unchecked capitalism or socialism.
     
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  2. Stanthropical

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    You’re exercising the freedoms afforded to you by and protected by the very same government you’re badmouthing.
     
  3. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Yes I guess you are right. So far anyway.
     
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    Government isn’t here to give you anything. Government is here to govern.
     
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    Stanthropical De̸͍̺̺̓̾m̶̶̶ͫͫod̶̶̶ͩͩu̶̶̶ͧͧLaᴛ̶̶ⷮo̵̢̦̟͋̾̓r

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    Government is people. People like you and I, and others with differing viewpoints, ideas, beliefs, etc. Some of us are corrupt and some us have high integrity.
     
  6. Stanthropical

    Stanthropical De̸͍̺̺̓̾m̶̶̶ͫͫod̶̶̶ͩͩu̶̶̶ͧͧLaᴛ̶̶ⷮo̵̢̦̟͋̾̓r

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    If government wasn’t supporting those who can’t fend for themselves (I’m not referring to scammers), we’d have a serious humanitarian deficiency—and you can imagine where that will take us (although judging from your sentiments, you take shit for granted).
     
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    It’s impossible for America to fall out of capitalism—take a moment to think about that.
     
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  8. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    "Government isn't here to give you anything...If government wasn't supporting". non seq? Which is it? Government isn't supporting. People paying into social security is. The people are. The church is here to help with humanitarian problems. And people. Government takes from those who have and gives to those who have less. I am not saying that's good or bad. I'm saying the government doesn't have any money to help anyone.
     
  9. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    What do you mean? How is that? Government is by the people.I agree. At least in theory. Much of Government is my bureaucrats not elected or answerable to the people. Much has changed.
     
  10. Stanthropical

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    You have trouble comprehending the two different topics. Separate them and stay relevant to the type of economy we have.

    Yes, people are and government is managing those pay-ins. But, we don't say "people are doing that," because people aren't giving money to each other--the government is distributing that support, hence, Government support. Do you understand how that works?

    Church is here for their own agenda and some of that agenda includes helping people. This remark is completely irrelevant. A non-point.

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    Government takes from those who have and gives to those who have less.[/quote]

    There's nobody knocking on my door with a bag for cash collections and a government badge. Do you live in some cult where you're robbed of money?

    You have no idea what you're saying, tbh.

    Nobody suggests that government has money. It's money of people who earn a living. The money needed for governing is collected and appropriated where needed.

    If you live in America and don't know what that means or how capitalism works, or how our country is/became to be what it is, you have no business discussing government, capitalism or social issues. Pick a topic which you can actually wrap your mind around.

    Imagine publicly funded highways, roads, buildings, mass-transit, all the laws governing all of that not being here. All of that making happen is us, the people, either through earnings, votes or actual participation in government.

    You're not making an compelling argument. The country isn't run by a pack of wolves.
     
  11. Stanthropical

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    It's really odd how people taking full advantage of everything that government has to offer actually have these crazy ass opinions which don't translate to reality they're experiencing. Are you people high on psychedelics?
     
  12. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Government takes from those who have and gives to those who have less.[/quote]

    There's nobody knocking on my door with a bag for cash collections and a government badge. Do you live in some cult where you're robbed of money?



    You have no idea what you're saying, tbh.



    Nobody suggests that government has money. It's money of people who earn a living. The money needed for governing is collected and appropriated where needed.



    If you live in America and don't know what that means or how capitalism works, or how our country is/became to be what it is, you have no business discussing government, capitalism or social issues. Pick a topic which you can actually wrap your mind around.



    Imagine publicly funded highways, roads, buildings, mass-transit, all the laws governing all of that not being here. All of that making happen is us, the people, either through earnings, votes or actual participation in government.



    You're not making an compelling argument. The country isn't run by a pack of wolves.[/QUOTE]
     
  13. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Really? That's not so for most people I know. Make an argument for "America can never fall out of Capitalism."
     
  14. Stanthropical

    Stanthropical De̸͍̺̺̓̾m̶̶̶ͫͫod̶̶̶ͩͩu̶̶̶ͧͧLaᴛ̶̶ⷮo̵̢̦̟͋̾̓r

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    I can't do this. You seem to live in fenced off cult.
     
  15. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Over 90% of federal lawmakers are simply "re-elected". And have to die to get out. Most lawmakers I have talked too. The "people" is simply a word they use. They are there for decades. Doing a good job? Or are they simply a recognized name? The people aren't intelligent enough to know what's going on. What had to happen for Marie Antoinette to be removed from power? I don't mean the way she died. All I've said is on topic. The thread is called "Government". Here now , future, past.
     
  16. Stanthropical

    Stanthropical De̸͍̺̺̓̾m̶̶̶ͫͫod̶̶̶ͩͩu̶̶̶ͧͧLaᴛ̶̶ⷮo̵̢̦̟͋̾̓r

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    None of what you just typed up backs up anything else you've typed up. You're just stringing words together which make up sentences appearing scathing.
     
  17. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

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    If you're talking about the US, are you sure about that?
     
  18. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Don't "Judge" you'll fuck the thread up. If there wasn't "redistribution" there would be some issues I agree.
     
  19. BillC

    BillC Active Member FCN Regular

    Do we agree at least that 1) Government doesn't have any money. And that's the US we are talking about. And you made a statement that was intriguing. You said it was impossible for the US to fall out of Capitalism. Considering my grades in economics in college I would say I understand Capitalism very well. Make an argument for that. That was an interesting comment, what did you mean?
     
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