Take away our right to bare arms ; a good or bad idea ?

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  1. witchygirl

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    Didn't your meme suggest if there were guns on campus mass shooters would think twice... there was a gun on campus 17 kids still died !!
     
  2. GamerGirl92

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    Wrong meme
     

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    You forgot to mention all Americans killed by cardiovascular disease, lung, throat and oral cancers as a result of tobacco use which is promoted to young people, facilitated by lax laws drawn up by rightists who are financed by The Big Tobacco.

    https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

    If we get rid of the rightists, we could save nearly half million lives per year, save on healthcare for other 16,000,000 smokers who are still alive and in-turn, yield lower health insurance cost.
    Vote anti Big Tobacco, anti cancer, vote for life and for lower healthcare costs—vote for ANYTHING against the GOP.
     
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  6. Dcdevon

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    There were 40'000 gun deaths in America in 2017 . 14'000 were murders . Most gun crimes are committed with hand guns . And their is no way to track how many people are killed by illegal alien's. Most states do not keep track of a prisoner's legal right to be in the country. Those that do normally only do so by counting who had a detainer put on them by ICE. Legal aliens who commit crimes will also be deported by ICE at the end of their sentence. As usual facts blow your propaganda out of the water . So ' Shut up Nazi bitch '
     
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    2017 actually saw the highest gun death rate since the mid nineties. And it has continued to climb . 2018 saw 47'220 deaths by gun in the U.S . 11,984 were murders . So far this year as of today there have been 15'209 gun related incidents with 4'073 resulting in death and 7'359 injuries. So ' Shut up Nazi bitch' and don't think you can post right wing lies and propaganda without being fact checked.
     
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  9. Hiesenburg

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    I think it's a bad idea to take away any constitutional rights. They are there for a reason. These rights many people died for and picking and choosing the ones you don't like and getting rid of them. Well shit just move away if you don't like those rules. Find somewhere that suits you best
     
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    Shut up bitch you aren't shooting anyone. All you gun nuts think it's just that easy . Fucking idiots.
     
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    One big guy starts throwing punches at people and in a club full of people 2 people attempt to fight back.

    2.

    You want me to believe that when the going gets tough you're willing to shot somebody?

    There is a very good reason the army spend a lot of money training people to kill another person. A lot of people choose the flight response when shit hits the fan.
     
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  14. KingDavid

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    Lol a British man without a constitution is telling an American why we should forfeit our guns to the government. With all due respect, sir, you don't know what you're talking about. "You want me to believe that when the going gets tough you're willing to shot somebody?" Yes? What, would you rather you and your family be murdered to death? Wow, why haven't I thought of that?!

    So, if this was you, and a crazy man with a machete is chopping your door down and the police aren't there to save you - you and your girlfriend are scared - what do you do? Jump out of the window? Roundhouse kick the machete out of his hand and do a Shoryuken? Kiss your GF goodbye and tell her you're sorry you're not a big enough man to protect her? I mean it works in the UK, right?

    http://fortune.com/2019/04/05/uk-knife-crime-stabbing-sales/

    On Friday, the CEO of supermarket operator Co-operative Group said on an earnings call that the chain—the U.K.’s sixth-largest—had stopped selling single kitchen knives a few weeks ago.

    “We’ve launched our safer colleague, safer community campaign to support colleague safety and help identify the causes of community crime. This has seen us remove kitchen knives from sale in our stores,” Steve Murrells told reporters, according to Reuters.

    The Co-op is the latest in an expanding line of supermarkets that are responding to record numbers of fatal stabbings in England and Wales.
    There were almost 40,000 knife crimes committed in the year up until September 2018, up two-thirds over the last four years. Most involved knives being used for assault and robbery, but there were 285 knife-related homicides—the most since 1946. Almost half of those killings were in London.

    Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Most legal gunowners in the United States are law-abiding citizens and they're the exact kind of person you want in your vicinity when you have a terrorist or active shooter in a crowd. Removing guns doesn't stop people from killing each other. They'll just use knives or vehicles. When that's a problem, you can ban knives and vehicles. Then people will use baseball (or more likely cricket) bats. Then you can ban those. You know what, this isn't working - let's just remove all of the rights from these British subjects and control everything they do. That's the solution!
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    Here's a lovely picture the British Police took. They were so proud that they shared it on Twitter. There's a fucking spoon on the board.
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  15. SexyAsianBitch

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    That spoon looks rusty
     
  16. KingDavid

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    Damn it, lol. That got me.
     
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    Didn't take long before a have a go hero comes in.

    So you expect me to believe when it's gets real nasty, you're suddenly gonna start popping caps in people's asses? Sorry not having it. I imagine most people who own a gun would absolutely shit themselves if someone threw a punch at them and suddenly put a gun in their hand they become stone cold killers? Guns are great deterrents but if someone starts shooting at you with the intent of killing you I bet most hide and fire warning shots whilst the assailant is actively trying to put a hole in your head.

    Not too sure why you'd bring a machete into this? You don't tackle someone wielding a knife because that's how you get stabbed. You maintain distance ideally using a long object to keep them away. And chances are if someone is intent on hacking your head off then even as a gun owner you're gonna be scared shitless. You're not a Navy SEAL were shooting people from close range in the face in highly dangerous situations is the norm.

    No one is suggesting that if you take guns from people then suddenly deaths stop. But good luck going on a killing spree with a baseball bat or even a well stained spoon.

    Although I have to admit that's some cold Riddick type shit if you're killing mother fuckers with a spoon.
     
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  19. KingDavid

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    Uhh, I think you watch too many movies. Have you ever used a firearm before, buddy? Yes, if someone breaks into your home - or say you have an active shooter, or anything else - then you USE the firearm to protect yourself. Is this concept really that "out there" for you? You're so used to being stabbed and thrown acid on your face, and all of the rape gangs, that you're foreign to the concept of self-defense? Yes, before the year of our Ford, there was a time when men were allowed to use gunpowder and pointy sticks, without the government's long arm up your ass, controlling everything you say and do.

    Did you even watch the video?
    Well, I'm imagining you writing this in a dress - but that doesn't mean it's accurate, does it? Maybe. What exactly are you basing all of this on? If someone's shooting at you, your first thought is to hide and fire warning shots while dialing the police to come in with their billy clubs, to educate the active shooter on not misgendering someone, or else they serve jail time?
    Because I linked a video of a man recording a crazy person, with a machete, chopping down his door. Him and his GF are scared, he orders the man to leave and says he will shoot him if he comes in. He does. The man is instantly stopped and says "You shot me" lol. I know, I know, you're feeling sorry for the guy, right? He lived, don't worry. But if that man hadn't owned a gun and made the decision to defend himself AND his GF, they would have both surely died.

    It's also more relevant for you, in the UK, with all of the stabbings going on. Maybe you could have stopped the machete-wielding maniac with a spoon. Ever play Knifey-Spoony before?
    OK, you definitely didn't watch the video and you whole "self-defense" thing doesn't even make sense to you. This is what happens when you live in a society without a constitution.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rrest-hither-green-self-defence-a8289561.html

    Neighbours of Richard Osborn-Brooks, the pensioner arrested on suspicion of murder after the fatal stabbing of an intruder during a suspected burglary, have insisted he should not be punished for defending himself at home.

    Police released Mr Osborn-Brooks, 78, on bail on Thursday after questioning him in connection with what happened during the suspected burglary at his London home at around 12.45am on Wednesday.

    Elderly pensioner arrested ‘after fatally stabbing intruder’

    The Metropolitan Police said that after two men, one of them allegedly armed with a screwdriver, entered the house, there was a struggle and a 37-year-old died.

    Mr Osborn-Brooks, who reportedly lives in the house with a wife who suffers from dementia, sustained bruising in the incident. On Thursday afternoon it emerged that he had previously donated money towards a scheme to reduce burglary in his street.

    His neighbours in Hither Green, south-east London, defended his alleged actions and expressed anxiety that a “traditional Englishman” was now in distress.

    “The burglars have made a criminal [suspect] of him,” said an elderly woman with a Neighbourhood Watch sticker on her front window. ”They were indoors minding their own business and their world has been turned upside down. I feel so sorry for him and his wife.”

    Adam Lake, who lives near the scene, said he did not feel safe from crime. He said: “He doesn’t deserve to be punished for defending himself, and the neighbours that I’ve spoken to all agree that the priority needs to be to support him after everything that he’s been through. He was just protecting himself after all.”

    Another of Mr Osborn-Brooks’ neighbours said: “He deserves a medal. You cannot break into people’s houses.

    “[I’ve heard] he’s a carer. This is a pensioner who has worked all his life who wants to live and die quietly.”

    The woman, who did not want to be named, added:
    “I lived in America, if this was in America this wouldn’t be a big issue.”


    Two thugs break into the home of an elderly couple. They beat up his wife with dementia, threaten to kill them, and somehow this honorable 78-year-old man manages to defend himself WITH the same screwdriver that threatened his life and HE'S the one charged with murder. No wonder you don't understand the concept of self-defense. I'd be better off teaching poetry to the birds in the park.
     
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  20. KingDavid

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    Good luck defending yourself from a tyrannical government without citizens with firearms. Oh that's right. Are you even a "citizen", or are you still just a "subject"? Did you work that out yet? Maybe so, I dunno. But you should get around to writing a constitution.

    They took away guns in Venezuela, and now they could really use them to fight off the tyrannical government in their current civil war. Taking away firearms is a prerequisite for socialism, because it's about control. They will use any and every tactic to convince the public it is the right thing to do, because that is what is required to take control.
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