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[ItzTwoTime]

When facts become "racist".

 

[SexyAsianBitch]

You're just confusing yourself and dodging all of my questions. Using your Wikipedia link: There are Democrats that switched to Republican and vice versa, as well as some who's switched back after switching. The only relevant ones would be Democrats switching to Republican around 1964. You would also expect to see a lot of Republicans switch to Democrats, but that's not the case. There are far more people in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 2010s who switched D-to-R so - using your logic - isn't that ALSO proof that the parties switched? 6 people switched in 1964 BUT 11 switched in 1994. This makes zero sense! Also, these people are a small minority of the party. If you're claiming the ENTIRE party switched ideologies, you're going to need more than 6 people - of course, not even getting to all of the other flaws in your argument.

And what about Calvin Coolidge and Franklin D. Roosevelt? This is the third time I asked you about this, and it will be the last.

In 1964, 6 people switched from D-to-R. Strom Thurmond being the most relevant, as I previously mentioned. He was a racist and thought society would collapse if we allowed black people in our theaters, swimming pools, etc. - and there were a lot of Democrats who thought this way. There were far, far more Republicans than Democrats who opposed this and fought for equal rights in 1960, 1964 and 1968 and they didn't "switch". You have 21 Democratic senators. 1 switched. The rest stayed the same. How many Republicans became Democrat? None. Because the parties never switched. This is fake news and you really should stop getting your information from The Young Turks and/or your shitty community college professor.

Many of the D-to-R people on this list post-1964 switched well after the Civil Rights act of 1964. Will Wilson for example is on this list in 1968. He served as the attorney general of Texas 57-63, but only switched to Republican in 1968 to support Nixon. Had nothing to do with civil rights. So when did the Democratic party start becoming the party of civil rights? I don't understand your views, if not the typical "Republicans are racist!" crap you hear from brainwashed liberals who watch too much television.


The Republican party is conservative, pro-rights, small government and low taxes. It is now and it was prior to 1964.
The Democratic party is liberal, pro-utilitarianism, big government and high taxes. It is now and it was prior to 1964.

I used the Wikipedia link because it proved what I was looking for. You originally said only one person switched and the link proven you false. I know little about American politics because I am not American. I do read up on world politics, but I know the least about American politics. The two party system is weird and I mentioned before it needs to be fixed.

 

[KingDavid]

I used the Wikipedia link because it proved what I was looking for. You originally said only one person switched and the link proven you false.

No, you're wrong. Try not to lose track of what we're talking about. Pay attention. I said there were 21 Democratic senators during the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Exactly 1 of them switched to the Republican party, Strom Thurmond, and the other 20 stayed Democrats. The Republicans didn't switch, either. On your list, there are people of many different positions - like Attorney Generals of specific states, governors, mayors, etc. None of this is relevant. Even still, 6 people switched from D-to-R in 1964. Politicians switched parties before and after 1964, to much greater degrees in the 80s-2010s. In 1994, almost twice as many (11) people switched from D-to-R. Does this mean the parties switched then? No. It's stupid. These handful of people aren't even 1% of the party.

The parties never switched. The democratic party is the same party of the confederacy, the KKK, eugenics and Jim Crow. They resisted the civil rights movement, while the Republicans fought for it in a great majority. While JFK was very much pro-civil rights, and LBJ used the civil rights to manipulate minorities for votes (his words), the Republicans were consistent in their support. Praise JFK all you want, I like him too, but he was fighting other democrats - not Republicans.

I know little about American politics because I am not American.

Well I respect your honesty, as long as you're consistent about it. You were likely told or read "the parties switched" and you believed it, but it's complete crap. I don't know the first thing about Canadian or Australian politics and I wouldn't ever speak up on that, because I'd look like a fool.

I do read up on world politics, but I know the least about American politics. The two party system is weird and I mentioned before it needs to be fixed.

Well, there's a lot of fake news out there. For 2 years our news has been saying the El Comandante has colluded with Russia. It's complete BS. Now provably false. That's just my opinion, anyways.

I agree we could use more than 2 parties. More like 5. We have the green party, but it's a waste of a vote, at least for El Comandante. I'm more libertarian center-right. I think Mister Niceguy was essentially George W Bush with a smile, but because they're the opposite party, some people act like they're night and day. They're really not. Pro-corporatism, pro-war, spying on its citizens, killing and detaining American citizens without a warrant. Before 2016, I've always considered myself to be a "liberal". Look where I'm at now. *shrug* Labels are meaningless. Values are more important. Liberals no longer fight for liberty.