U.S. Election 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SexyAsianBitch, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. GamerGirl92

    GamerGirl92 LGBT Forum & Chat Moderator Staff Member FCN Regular

    Warren is a joke. Biden could possibly have a chance
     
  2. Dcdevon

    Dcdevon Well-Known Member FCN Regular

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    The race of course can go either way. But Tr.ump is up against a lot more than just Democratic candidates. Hell some Republicans have even talked about how it might be time to run a candidate against him for the nomination. And he's losing the support of some GOP senators because of the shutdown. He's in a very bad position and it's only going to get worse .
     
  3. Dcdevon

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    Biden has a better chance than Warren. But I wouldn't count her out . It was women who fueled the Dems takeover of the House . And she isn't scared to be confrontational which is what the base wants .
     
  4. Dcdevon

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    And let's not forget the Mueller report and the multiple investigations. It anything major comes up implicating Tr.ump the GOP stop protecting him in a heartbeat. They only back him because he's the Preside.nt and a so called Republican. They also thought they might get some of their agenda pushed which hasn't happened much .They will turn on him quick to save face and their careers.
     
  5. Lamar56

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    Tru.mp is only a Republican in name only !!! He is from the state of New York for God's sake !!!
     
  6. Dcdevon

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    I know that . But because of that the party feels they have to back him. But that's also why they will abandon him if anything bad comes out of these investigations. He's only useful as long as they think they can get something from him. He's stacking the courts with conservative judges .And he plays lip service to pro life , but that won't save him if it comes down to it.
     
  7. SexyAsianBitch

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    In today's society, people can get in trouble for racist comments or any comment that can be viewed as racist or sexist. It seems that a lot of the Democrats are now focused in apologizing for the past before they can focus on the future. You say Joe Biden Jr has the best chance of winning may be true but you have to look at his age. He is going to be 78. The current El Comandante is the oldest at 70. If people do look at people's past not about their plans for if they do get elected then I could see people like Elizabeth Warren and Tulsi Gabbard dropping out quickly. The current El Comandante does not focus on the people who have entered the race and that is something he has going for him. He spends too much time on social media in my opinion, but everything he does is to get people to talk about him. I also do not understand why people in the USA start so early with campaigns. In Korea for El Comandante years it is 23 days and 14 days for national election assembly. Japan is even more strict; 12 days only.
     
  8. Dcdevon

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    Bidens age could be a factor. Gabbard isn't going far at all. I still think Warren has a good chance. But she has to not just go after Tr.ump she has to show what she would do better. Tr.ump hardcore supporters will vote for him. But he needs more than just them to win again. The people in blue states that voted for him , did so because they were tired of the Washington elite. They felt the Democratic party abandoned them. And they thought he would change things . But he hasn't. The swamp hasn't been drained. It's gotten even swampier. Those are the types of things Dems need to focus on. That and the fact not a lot has been accomplished since he's been in office. That's why I keep asking that of GamerGirl92 and why she refuses to answer. And why I keep saying how many promises has he actually kept? And as you see she won't answer that either. That's what Democrates need to do to win. And show they have a plan to make good things happen. Our election cycle starts so early because of money . It used to start later. But the more PACs and superPacs and lobbyist got involved the earlier the season started. So even if you are Warren who says she won't take that kind of money to you need to get started early to get your donations in to. Part of the reason our system is so currupt. But it's big money particularly for Republicans although they are not the only ones guilty by any means. They will make sure no reform happens as long as they control the Senate. So we are stuck with it for the foreseeable future.
     
  9. SexyAsianBitch

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    If it starts earlier and earlier because of money wouldn't it make sense that a billionaire like Bloomberg would have a better chance?
     
  10. Modron

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    That could happen, but you've already had one 'Money Guy' as POTUS - do you want another so soon after?

    Looking at what is happening in the USA and then comparing it with the UK, there are some definite things in common:

    * Both have unpopular leaders, though Theresa May's popularity is starting to rise overall in the run up to Brexit
    * The opposition in both countries is rudderless and is more concerned with group-think and identity politics
    * The Conservatives and Republicans are lining up to stab their leader in the back, and ironically the replacement could be worse than the incumbent!

    Paul 'Gays can be cured' Ryan (USA)

    Jacob 'I don't like homosexuals or poor people' Rees-Mogg (UK)

    Both countries need a sensible and moderate candidate who will champion the needs of all people.
     
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  11. GamerGirl92

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    Yes, investigations. Which have shown nothing that wasnt already known. Eveyojes so eager to find something on Tr.ump. Anything on him. You saw how quick every left wing media site went nuts over the Buzzfeed article, which turned out to be false and the editor fired
     
  12. Modron

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    Buzzfeed, Vice, possibly Huffing Rags going the same way - into history as a failed entity.

    DT is not squeaky clean, but he has dirt on a lot of people and so after Mueller (any relation to the German Mueller who was in charge of the Secret Police?) and his investigation either does not happen or the end result is Kavanaugh 2 then what?

    DT is not interested in playing 'Groupthink' or SJW policies and that is why he isn't well liked by his opponents.
     
  13. SexyAsianBitch

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    In all honesty if you are squeeky clean in politics then you should have everyone closely watching you.
     
  14. Modron

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    Which is the sad thing, as Politicians and those in positions of high authority should be squeaky clean.

    We are supposed to look up to the betters of society, but when they are corrupt and immoral how can we respect them (in any party?)
     
  15. Dcdevon

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    There have been 31 indictments and convictions. That have gotten closer to Tr.ump over the months. Neither you nor I know what they will find in the end. But if they have nothing to hide why lie about it ?
     
  16. Dcdevon

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    Not necessarily. They still have to win the primaries and then get elected. Tr.ump has plenty of money but no one thought he would win the Republican nomination. And then no one thought he could win the Presidency either. It's not just about money but it plays a big part .
     
  17. Dcdevon

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    In addition Tr.ump has already been implicated in multiple crimes . If he was not Presi.dent he would have been charged already. He is also an unindicted co- conspirator in one of the Cohen cases. And Tr.ump was not cleared in the BuzzFeed report. Mueller didn't say Tr.ump didn't do what BuzzFeed said. He said BuzzFeed was wrong on how they said he got the information. He also didn't say the information was incorrect. There could be a sealed indictment waiting for him the moment he leaves office. But again neither you nor I can know that .
     
  18. Modron

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    If they find nothing, what then?

    Money and influence, also who you know and whose bidding you will have to do, is key - that is why the honest politician who wants to do well never succeeds.
     
  19. Modron

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    Yet there is talk in some outlets that Warren, Harris, Pelosi etc. are also involved in crimes. Why are these not being brought into the open...after all if you have nothing to hide, innocent until proven guilty (or is it guilty until proven innocent in the Social Media court?)

    BuzzFeed also recently sacked a lot of its black and homosexual writers? What say you on this @Dcdevon? Surely this must be the biggest outrage since....last week?
     
  20. Dcdevon

    Dcdevon Well-Known Member FCN Regular

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    I think you are confusing not being charged with a crime yet with being cleared of wrongdoing. He has not been cleared or vindicated on anything he has been accused of. Maybe they will find nothing. But you are acting as if you know that . Which is silly.
     

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