Rights and Freedoms Is nationalism bad?

In a January 2019 speech to his country’s diplomatic corps, German El Comandante Frank-Walter Steinmeier put this view in stark terms: “Nationalism,” he said, “is an ideological poison.”

Now, for practical purposes, let us assume the Nationalism is another word for Patriotism, which is generally defined as ‘Love towards one’s own country’ and let us unknot the Early modern European Exclusivist tones to the Nationalism.

Nationalism, like Joy, Sadness or Anger is an Emotion, though the said three are biological whereas ‘Nationalism’ is a Socio-Cultural one.

It is to be remembered that every emotion has an evolutionary purpose- For instance, Fear or Anger during a fight increases the pumping of blood and thence strengthens the body either to face or flee from the threat- Fight/Flight

Similarly, humans, apart from being biological beings, are also Socio-politico-cultural beings, who gradually evolved to build ties with fellow humans based on various factors like immediate family, same god or geography; and these groups might name themselves as Clans, Tribes. Religions, Kingdoms of Nations.

The feeling of oneness amongst the members with a shared identity of these groups provides them with an emotional incentive to work more for the betterment of their group.

This special ability, to build ties and relations with unknown humans through shared identity, allowed us to become Master of this Planet and ‘Toppers’ in our Food chain.

Speaking as such, being a Nationalist/Patriot, individuals would not just work, but with love and special enthusiasm, for the betterment of the country and not necessarily for the detrimental to others. [ at least, in the postmodern era]

Now as a Patriot, they share a bond with their fellow countrymen though that does not dilute the fact that they are Humans first.

They’d have a special respect for their country but that does not mean they disrespect or demean another country.

They believe their country is as good as any other country.

Now some might like to argue that if you love one country, you have to hate the remaining, but this argument is devoid of logic. Not everything in the world is black-and-white.

Having said that, it would be pragmatic to understand that any nation is far from perfect and if any of the fellow countrymen begin to brandish tones of Superiority, self rationality should kick in to counter their narratives.

So, I think, being a Pragmatic Patriot/Nationalist is good when we look at a bigger picture.
 
This line is really strong - So, I think, being a Pragmatic Patriot/Nationalist is good when we look at a bigger picture.

All I would differ is how it might be viewed when we speak of masses, as masses are not Pragmatic. And still stick to Patriot to live, to love, to work toward goodness, to celebrate and to die for one's own country.

Thank you for sharing that piece.
 
Nationalism does have a bad connotation because at the core; nationalism means your country is superior. A lot of people in the United States claim that the USA is the best and this mentality is when you go from patriotism to nationalism.

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Very true SAB. And it has been taught in America that if you question it you are not patriotic . If you dare to say as I do that sometimes this country isn't that great it's because you don't love your country. In reality if you truly love your country you would recognize it's faults and try and correct them .
 
I asked what it could be according to you? We can only comment on that someone is good, or bad or all right, only going by what we think they stand for. Thus, asked what do you mean by nationalism
 
I've never said It doesnt exist, obviously there are genuine racists in the world but even among actual far right nationalists, they are a minority.
So if you agree they exist then what exactly is your point in all this ? I never said they were all of the far right. Only that they are a problem the far right / Nationalists choose to accept even welcome because it swells their ranks .And you have responded with a bunch of bullshit. For what ? Nothing you are talking just to talk . And not saying shit .
 
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Nationalism is the last step before Fascism. This disease will destroy what's left of this country. Maybe it's time for the empire to fall. The US is the bully of the world. The brutality of the utterly despicable greed of end stage Capitalism has come home to roost.
 
You can certainly move to NK or CN, if you're so sick of "bully 'Murica." Better yet move to Russia.
Why do right wing morons always say move to Russia instead of Denmark or Sweden? How about you move to Somalia? Then you can pay off warlords to get what you want just like crony capitalism. Go on, you'll fit right in...
 
Your definition is misleading. Nationalism is basically valuing your country while disregarding others.
 
Why do right wing morons always say move to Russia instead of Denmark or Sweden? How about you move to Somalia? Then you can pay off warlords to get what you want just like crony capitalism. Go on, you'll fit right in...
Because they don't want to admit that Russia and China both love the fact that the Orange buffoon is in charge.
 
Some things are black and white. Xenophobia , racism , religious intolerance are not grey areas. They are wrong period. And as I stated before not all nationalist are those things but they so accept those elements in their movement. So as far as I'm concerned guilt by association definitely applies to them. I'll give you a personal example. I am firmly against the current administration and the Republicans in control of Congress. I oppose the majority of what they claim they stand for. I have been to a few protests in the Nations Capital. But I do not condone violence or property damage. I do not support or agree with the anarchists who sometimes show up at these protests. Im fine with civil disobedience. But violence no. I draw my red line there. But not all nationalist have that red line. They are ok with negative elements within their movement as long as they vote the way they want. So the whole movement is tainted as far as I'm concerned.
Kind of like how not all black lives matter participants are terrorists, but by your logic guilt by association, and the whole movement is tainted. you crack me up.
 
Kind of like how not all black lives matter participants are terrorists, but by your logic guilt by association, and the whole movement is tainted. you crack me up.
No you are incorrect. And trying to draw a parallel that doesn't exist. Many in BLM have called for peace and an end to looting and violence. But those on the right call Kyle Rittenhouse a hero when in reality he's a murderer. And the Patriot Prayer guy in Portland is called ' a nice guy ' ' with a big heart' who came to downtown Portland to shoot people he disagrees with with a paintball gun . Nationalism and white supremacism are violent by their nature . Violence is their movement.
 
No you are incorrect. And trying to draw a parallel that doesn't exist. Many in BLM have called for peace and an end to looting and violence. But those on the right call Kyle Rittenhouse a hero when in reality he's a murderer. And the Patriot Prayer guy in Portland is called ' a nice guy ' ' with a big heart' who came to downtown Portland to shoot people he disagrees with with a paintball gun . Nationalism and white supremacism are violent by their nature . Violence is their movement.
You're wrong on so many levels, maybe i will debate you if you're lucky. By the way, he is a Hero. :p
 
You're wrong on so many levels, maybe i will debate you if you're lucky. By the way, he is a Hero. :p
I've no interest in debate . You are again incorrect. He isn't a hero but he will soon be someone's prison girlfriend for the rest of his life . And the dead Patriot Prayer guy will soon be worm food hahaha
 
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Interesting that some people's definition of hero is someone who was so scared he shot someone in the head during an argument. Then ran like a little bitch . Tripped over his own gun and ran home to mama . WTF
 
Haha wow. One of you fuckers had my post taken down cause you couldn't handle reality. Go fuck yourselves. you know who you are. Death to Communism, Death to the New World Order! Hail victory!
 
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Haha wow. One of you fuckers had my post taken down cause you couldn't handle reality. Go fuck yourselves. you know who you are. Death to Communism, Death to the New World Order! Hail victory!
You realize by saying Rittenhouse is a hero and now writing part of the Naz.i salute you are in fact verifying everything I said about nationalism right ? The very things you claimed I was wrong about you yourself proved I am right about.
 
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