Shameful Act

[Fx2019]

This thread is about the shameful acts which some governments do (or had done) and I think we should not be silent against them.
For example many years ago a shameful Genocide occurred in Armenian lands of Ottoman empire. The Turkish government is still ignore to recognize it as a Genocide.
Today I am not going to talk about the Armenian Genocide in 1915. I start this thread because yesterday I heard a terrible news about Swedish police against Iranian people which you may also heard about it.
How a shameful act they did.
I do not believe that most European countries believe in human right. They are only beautiful liars!
It is very regrettable that the Swedish government - which claims to be feminist and progressive - not only welcomes agents of the anti-woman and repressive regime, but also attacks Iranians who have been displaced and deported by the repressive regime.
The Iranian people will retake their country and will not forget these shameful confrontations the day after their release.

 

[Lupine]

I'm guessing you mean this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.radiofarda.com/amp/30123972.html

It's great to sit on the outside and make judgement calls on how the police works in any country. But until you've done that role you really don't understand the pressure they come under and are expected to deal with 24/7 with very little support.

A lot of countries if they were allowed would not allow people in from certain countries due to the fact it generates a huge amount of issues. Yet they do so in an act of tolerance. Yet get a lot of bad press when minority rights aren't what they want. Can you imagine a lot of mainly Muslim countries letting the Roman Catholic church build a huge cathedral near a mosque. I couldn't either. So if countries and people want equality and religious tolerance it has to go both ways.

If those cast out from various countries want to go and reclaim them. They why have they never done it before?

 

[Fx2019]

First of all I should notify that I am not talking about police or the other office with limited authorities. The main point in my discussion is being protected by the Swedish government. The Islamic republic is a big enemy for civilization if we want to exclude compliments. They support terrorism and it should not be ignored by any government. Instead, we see that they order to crackdown the protesters.
Anyway, you may live in a European country. So you may be faced by some extremist Muslim who think that they have the right to do anything and should not be judged! Unfortunately the European governments opened the doors for Muslims to enter Europe and do everything. Now I ask you a simple question: Do you want a new discipline for your country according to Muslim's wishes?! If your answer is not "Yes" , so remember that which governments are supporting Islamic Republic against our people (Iranian people).
We known that some European countries and American democrats are supporting the Islamic Republic to have a great deal. But they forget that any support of the Islamic Republic may cause a very terrible result for their countries too. They should learn that devil (I mean Islamic republic government of Iran) is not a good and sustainable friend for them.

 

[Stanthropical]

You're not even in Iran or Iranian. What is the purpose of this?

 

[Dcdevon]

Iran is ruled by Iranians. So who are the Iranians who have left going to take the government back from ? The Ayatollahs? That's not going to happen. And the U.S isn't supporting Iran . Are you mentally I'll? Drunk ? High ? We almost striked them with missles a few months ago. Their economy is shit because of our sanctions. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[Fx2019]

You're not even in Iran or Iranian. What is the purpose of this?

I live in Iran and am Iranian. I know what I am talking about. In 1970s El Comandante Jimmy Carter helped Ayatollah Khomeini against the Imperial government of Iran. Then a dirty game begun. The Ayatollahs told that USA is the enemy! But behind of curtain, the United States had many benefits by continuing Ayatollah's regime. They sold many weapons to the Iran's neighbours. They had a big reason to keep their bases in middle east because the Arab countries around the Persian Gulf were afraid if Iran attacked them! Of course Iran have never attacked them, but they still are afraid about it.
Now The European countries are also helping and supporting the current regime of Iran. For European, it doesn't matter that the regime kills Iranian everyday. They only want their opportunities by keeping the regime in Iran.
Yes, I certainly know what I am talking about, but if you reall

 

[Dcdevon]

I live in Iran and am Iranian. I know what I am talking about. In 1970s El Comandante Jimmy Carter helped Ayatollah Khomeini against the Imperial government of Iran. Then a dirty game begun. The Ayatollahs told that USA is the enemy! But behind of curtain, the United States had many benefits by continuing Ayatollah's regime. They sold many weapons to the Iran's neighbours. They had a big reason to keep their bases in middle east because the Arab countries around the Persian Gulf were afraid if Iran attacked them! Of course Iran have never attacked them, but they still are afraid about it.
Now The European countries are also helping and supporting the current regime of Iran. For European, it doesn't matter that the regime kills Iranian everyday. They only want their opportunities by keeping the regime in Iran.
Yes, I certainly know what I am talking about, but if you reall

You are crazy af ! If that was the case the crowd would not have overrun our embassy. You also aren't Iranian. If so you do not know your history. The U.S was partially responsible for getting rid of Irans elected Preside.nt and installing the Shah who had been exiled to London back in power. Because the Brits told the U.S the Iranian presiden.t has getting close to communists. BEC he wanted to nationalize the oil industry and kick BP out . I know this even though it's not a good part of my country's history. How can you as an Iranian not know that ? Because you are not in Iran.

 

[Fx2019]

You are crazy af ! If that was the case the crowd would not have overrun our embassy. You also aren't Iranian. If so you do not know your history. The U.S was partially responsible for getting rid of Irans elected Preside.nt and installing the Shah who had been exiled to London back in power. Because the Brits told the U.S the Iranian presiden.t has getting close to communists. BEC he wanted to nationalize the oil industry and kick BP out . I know this even though it's not a good part of my country's history. How can you as an Iranian not know that ? Because you are not in Iran.

I prefer not to discuss with you, because you do not have enough information but you think know anything. Iran has never had a El Comandante till 1979. You even don't know it! What El Comandante are you talking about?!
I am Iranian and I do not need your trust.
HIM Mohammadreza Shah Pahlavi has never been exiled to London or somewhere else. You are not honest even with yourself. And unfortunately your information is not enough to discuss with me.

 

[Dcdevon]

I prefer not to discuss with you, because you do not have enough information but you think know anything. Iran has never had a El Comandante till 1979. You even don't know it! What El Comandante are you talking about?!
I am Iranian and I do not need your trust.
HIM Mohammadreza Shah Pahlavi has never been exiled to London or somewhere else. You are not honest even with yourself. And unfortunately your information is not enough to discuss with me.

You are correct the Shah left in excile and a prime minister was instated . I had my title's wrong . But you are incorrect in stating the U S backed the Ayatollahs. That makes no sense. The U.S did back the Shah and then prime minister. Anyway whatever

 

[Fx2019]

You are correct the Shah left in excile and a prime minister was instated . I had my title's wrong . But you are incorrect in stating the U S backed the Ayatollahs. That makes no sense. The U.S did back the Shah and then prime minister. Anyway whatever

The prime minister according to Iranian rules had been elected by Shah. And Shah had the right to fire him (according the rules). Unfortunately the leftist Iranians who were protecting Mosadegh (prime minister), were the Russian arm to destroy our country. See what happened for columnist countries during half century. All of them had been destroyed economically and socially. See what happened for North Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, etc... The Mosadegh protectors want the same thing for Iran. Shah did not allow them to making Iran a yard for Russia. Mosadegh had never been elected by people. He was a feudal who has the protection of Ayatollahs and leftist at the same time.
Iran and the United States was good allies till 1978. The lies can not change the real facts of history.

 

[Dcdevon]

The prime minister according to Iranian rules had been elected by Shah. And Shah had the right to fire him (according the rules). Unfortunately the leftist Iranians who were protecting Mosadegh (prime minister), were the Russian arm to destroy our country. See what happened for columnist countries during half century. All of them had been destroyed economically and socially. See what happened for North Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, etc... The Mosadegh protectors want the same thing for Iran. Shah did not allow them to making Iran a yard for Russia. Mosadegh had never been elected by people. He was a feudal who has the protection of Ayatollahs and leftist at the same time.
Iran and the United States was good allies till 1978. The lies can not change the real facts of history.

I'm not in support of Communism. But for the U S anyone is better than the Ayatollahs. Who shout death to America. That's my point. The U.S did not support Khomeini .

 

[Dcdevon]

The prime minister according to Iranian rules had been elected by Shah. And Shah had the right to fire him (according the rules). Unfortunately the leftist Iranians who were protecting Mosadegh (prime minister), were the Russian arm to destroy our country. See what happened for columnist countries during half century. All of them had been destroyed economically and socially. See what happened for North Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, etc... The Mosadegh protectors want the same thing for Iran. Shah did not allow them to making Iran a yard for Russia. Mosadegh had never been elected by people. He was a feudal who has the protection of Ayatollahs and leftist at the same time.
Iran and the United States was good allies till 1978. The lies can not change the real facts of history.

The U S played a role in mosadegh being overthrown in favor of the Shahs power getting stronger. That's who I was referring to when I said Preside.nt he was prime minister. And was democratically elected . As I said I got my title's confused. But you are saying we conspired to put Khomeini in power, who is hostile to us, and was hostile when the Prime minister of that the Shah put in power when he left invited him back to Iran. Why would we do that ?

 

[Fx2019]

I'm not in support of Communism. But for the U S anyone is better than the Ayatollahs. Who shout death to America. That's my point. The U.S did not support Khomeini .

Unfortunately they did. There's a great difference between republican party and democrats. Democrats have always supported the Islamic regime. I ask you why someone like Javad Zarif should have two houses in America, meanwhile we know he shout "de... to America"? Why I can not apply for a visa to visit America, but the son of Masoumeh Ebtekar lives in America? Do you know who is Masoumeh Ebtekar? She attacked the US embassy in Tehran. She is free to travel to America but an ordinary person is not allowed to enter America. There are many example like this.
Another thing which we could talk about is VoA staffs. They always invite Russophil and old marksists and communist person who always discussed against the USA and the Shah of Iran. I wondered why American should pay for promoting communism ideology?! In VoA Farsi they act against the US national interests. There are many unignorable facts that confirm my words.

 

[Fx2019]

The U S played a role in mosadegh being overthrown in favor of the Shahs power getting stronger. That's who I was referring to when I said Preside.nt he was prime minister. And was democratically elected . As I said I got my title's confused. But you are saying we conspired to put Khomeini in power, who is hostile to us, and was hostile when the Prime minister of that the Shah put in power when he left invited him back to Iran. Why would we do that ?

He had been elected by the Shah of Iran (according Iranian rules). And Shah had the right to Dismissal of the Prime Minister. OK?
I don't said that you (all American) support Khomeini. I just said that democrats helped and supported him. Democrats had the difference policy which is close to UK's interests.

 

[Dcdevon]

Unfortunately they did. There's a great difference between republican party and democrats. Democrats have always supported the Islamic regime. I ask you why someone like Javad Zarif should have two houses in America, meanwhile we know he shout "de... to America"? Why I can not apply for a visa to visit America, but the son of Masoumeh Ebtekar lives in America? Do you know who is Masoumeh Ebtekar? She attacked the US embassy in Tehran. She is free to travel to America but an ordinary person is not allowed to enter America. There are many example like this.
Another thing which we could talk about is VoA staffs. They always invite Russophil and old marksists and communist person who always discussed against the USA and the Shah of Iran. I wondered why American should pay for promoting communism ideology?! In VoA Farsi they act against the US national interests. There are many unignorable facts that confirm my words.

Politics is messy but again it makes no sense for the U.S to support Khomeini. Democrats are in support of the nuclear deal that TR.ump abandoned. The deal which Tr.ump abandoned and then reinstalled all of the sanctions against your country. The Democrats want the deal to be honored by the U S and those sanctions lifted . Which would help the Iranian economy. Why as an Irainian citizen would you be against this . Unless you are not actually in Iran .

 

[Fx2019]

I live in Iran. I wouldn't like the fucking help in a short period. Every deal with the Islamic Republic will cause to keep the fucking regime in Iran. And as you see ever since the Islamic Republic came into being, terrorism is growing up. They want to destroy Israel. It is terrible. They do not recognize the right of Jewish and Zoroastrian people in Iran. They often tried to kill Jewish people around the world. Do you want to ignore the fact?

 

[Dcdevon]

He had been elected by the Shah of Iran (according Iranian rules). And Shah had the right to Dismissal of the Prime Minister. OK?
I don't said that you (all American) support Khomeini. I just said that democrats helped and supported him. Democrats had the difference policy which is close to UK's interests.

He was elected by a vote . Not appointment by the Shah. The prime minister the Shah put in power when he fled the country was appointed. We are talking about two different prime ministers more than 20 years apart. And Democrats do not support Khomeini. That may be what you are taught . But it is incorrect. Working to try and decrease tension and not take a hardline that could lead to war is not the same as support. And again if you are truly an Iranian citizen why would you not want that . So you are saying you want your economy to be bad. And you want the U S to bomb the fuck out of you ! You don't make any sense.

 

[Dcdevon]

I live in Iran. I wouldn't like the fucking help in a short period. Every deal with the Islamic Republic will cause to keep the fucking regime in Iran. And as you see ever since the Islamic Republic came into being, terrorism is growing up. They want to destroy Israel. It is terrible. They do not recognize the right of Jewish and Zoroastrian people in Iran. They often tried to kill Jewish people around the world. Do you want to ignore the fact?

No not at all. But I don't think they are going anywhere anytime soon. You have to work with what you got to get what you want. And Iran without a nuclear weapon controlled by the Ayatollahs is better than one with a nuclear weapon controlled by the Ayatollahs. At least for the rest of the world.

 

[Fx2019]

He was elected by a vote . Not appointment by the Shah. The prime minister the Shah put in power when he fled the country was appointed. We are talking about two different prime ministers more than 20 years apart. And Democrats do not support Khomeini. That may be what you are taught . But it is incorrect. Working to try and decrease tension and not take a hardline that could lead to war is not the same as support. And again if you are truly an Iranian citizen why would you not want that . So you are saying you want your economy to be bad. And you want the U S to bomb the fuck out of you ! You don't make any sense.

Do not talk about something which you don't have enough information. I know my history much better than you. Mosadegh was not elected by vote. All of these lies had been made by democrats.
I really wouldn't like to continue any discussion with you.
I left my message and warned about the danger of Islamic ideology. You may accept or not. It's up to you.

 

[Dcdevon]

Do not talk about something which you don't have enough information. I know my history much better than you. Mosadegh was not elected by vote. All of these lies had been made by democrats.
I really wouldn't like to continue any discussion with you.
I left my message and warned about the danger of Islamic ideology. You may accept or not. It's up to you.

Blah, blah , blah ok Sergie, or Igor or valadmir lol