Literally how I feel about most 90s animes that never had an ending until recently. It's why I can't sit through these long animes of filler because I hate it. I'm looking at you one piece. It's why i'll probably never sit through naruto.
Anyways unrelated but I finished the latest season of my hero academia and now i'm gonna go through the feelings of mad it ended like that and then later forget about it until the newest season comes out. There's some other stuff i'm watching but can't remember right now.
Yare yare daze .. you got to check out the manga dude
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Just finished watching BNA: Brand New Animal its a rather fantastic Anime enjoyed it shame its so short tho.
@Busty_Nerd - I have some major issues with MHA. I am of the minority who is just not impressed with the series. I shall refrain from giving my long rant about it. Though yeah the fillers are just too much in older series. The current pattern of taking a break is much better than unending fillers. Black Clover is falling into the filler chaos, they just have way too many flashbacks.
Though I have a Manga (Rather Manhua) suggestion for you. The series is called The Noblesse. In case you have not tried it you should, it is not your regular Vampire series. The broad storyline is that the Human Species whenever were in trouble they asked help from Powerful Beings. These beings lived by a noble code of helping all who were weaker or those who were in need. Thus they were historically called as Nobels. And these beings are Vampires. It is beautifully drawn and has a rich storyline.
Anyone else looking for some fun/light Mangas/Manhuas here are some random suggestions
1) Apotheosis (Magic based series)
2) Berserk of Gluttony (RPG sort of series)
3) Weak Hero (School Bully/Mafia)
4) The Last Human (Dystopian future)
5) The Breaker/The Breaker New Waves (Martial Arts modern setting)
6) Gosu (Ancient Martial Arts)
7) The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor (Magic Based)
8) The God of High School
Most of these series have a good amount of story arc already "serialized" so it is fun.
As for Anime
Tower of God is a brilliant series. Though anime is rushed, if you enjoyed the series please do read the Manga
ID Invaded is an all right series
Dorohedro is quite fun, the story and the art are different
Grancrest Senki is a short series but is a good one time watch.
Though I have a Manga (Rather Manhua) suggestion for you. The series is called The Noblesse. In case you have not tried it you should, it is not your regular Vampire series. The broad storyline is that the Human Species whenever were in trouble they asked help from Powerful Beings. These beings lived by a noble code of helping all who were weaker or those who were in need. Thus they were historically called as Nobels. And these beings are Vampires. It is beautifully drawn and has a rich storyline.
Anyone else looking for some fun/light Mangas/Manhuas here are some random suggestions
1) Apotheosis (Magic based series)
2) Berserk of Gluttony (RPG sort of series)
3) Weak Hero (School Bully/Mafia)
4) The Last Human (Dystopian future)
5) The Breaker/The Breaker New Waves (Martial Arts modern setting)
6) Gosu (Ancient Martial Arts)
7) The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor (Magic Based)
8) The God of High School
Most of these series have a good amount of story arc already "serialized" so it is fun.
As for Anime
Tower of God is a brilliant series. Though anime is rushed, if you enjoyed the series please do read the Manga
ID Invaded is an all right series
Dorohedro is quite fun, the story and the art are different
Grancrest Senki is a short series but is a good one time watch.
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Eh, I like MHA, it's not my favorite thing on the planet. It caught my attention and it's cute and likeable but not my all-time favorite thing ever. I'd love to hear your opinion, because I've got time. But it's cool. Does The Noblesse have an anime out right now? I'll have to give it a try. I love vampire stuff.
If one piece or naruto ever gets a modern reboot where they cut out all the filler and keeps the plot line then i'll be happy to watch. But until then I don't have the time tbh lol.
@Busty_Nerd
Once in Chat, I said I do not see MHA as a great series, I got tons of hate. It is a mediocre series and with its toxic fanbase, it just gets worse. If anything else, I can say it is one series where side-characters are more interesting than the protagonist.
a) All humans get powers and when our hero was told by a doctor, he had none, what did our protagonist do? He did not boost his physical prowess but just watched feel-good videos. There are many parallels whether it was Naruto or Asta (Naruto and Black Clover) where a person is relatively powerless compared to the rest of the society, they strive to compensate for the lack of things.
b) The guy gets his power literary on a platter, he did not do anything for it. Moreover, why Deku got the Power is not justified. He was not selfless in saving a friend from the slime-monster. Selfless is when you can do something for others and when you have some bit of probability of success. Selfless is also when you can throw your self in danger but have a chance to save someone else. Deku did not have any chance of saving anyone, instead, he would give the foe two people as hostages. Even the anime itself gives a comparison, with Vermillion. And, whether it is hard work, intelligence, perseverance, ideals, or physical strength our protagonist does not stand before him.
c) When someone has an issue of not having great power, e.g. One Piece, frankly, Luffy is an elastic man or Naruto who had no special powers, to begin with, we go on a journey of their self-discovery, getting stronger and there is a mystique on how they will become head of the village or of the pirate kingdom. All the while the power to dream ratio just does not seem to be possible. In the case of Deku, he was given Kryptonite-less Superman’s power right at the start. All he has to do is get stronger physically and all is done. The only journey he has to go on is to become Arnold Schwarzenegger.
d) Even physically if he worked out for a long time to attain a-bit of the power, he lost all silly sports tournament in his class. You lose running/sprinting against an invisible girl? There is something wrong with you.
e) The Protagonist always has self-doubts, he then goes into 5 mins of contemplation, then thinks of heroes he wants to be like, then comes some music and he beats the foe. – This cycle when happens for the first time it is awesome, however, when it is a forever cycle it just is too much.
f) There are just endless student-tournaments which do not do much for the story, they are just repetitive for no reason. All the tournaments etc bring around 20-30 new characters, and their quirks and then all these people just disappear you never hear from them.
g) Lastly, most fights of MHA are boring on technicalities. It’s like Superman fights, there is a lot of heart and emotions and effects, but all you would see in the end who has a bigger punch. Kick, throw, punch through things – that’s it.
h) It is just an ok series at best.
Noblesse – Only has Manhua as of now. There is one OVA which was released a while ago. Post that many studios have been trying to make an Animated version. Supposedly we might get an Anime next year or so. Till then we only have the comic, but the comic but is super fun.
I remembered you like Vampire stuff, thus was suggested. and their art is to my liking.
If you want Filler Killer list -
Naruto (Can mostly skip also the Mixed)
Manga Canon Episodes:1-6, 8, 10-13, 17, 22, 25, 31-36, 42, 48, 50-51, 61-62, 64-65, 67-68, 73, 75-82, 84-96, 107-111, 115-125, 128-129, 132-135
Mixed Canon/Filler Episodes:7, 9, 14-16, 18-21, 23-24, 27-30, 37-41, 43-47, 49, 52-60, 63, 66, 69-72, 74, 83, 98-100, 112-114, 126-127, 130-131, 141-142, 220
Filler Episodes:26, 97, 101-106, 136-140, 143-219
Naruto Shippuden (Similarly can skip Mixed and stick to Canon Episode)
Manga Canon Episodes:20-23, 26-27, 29-44, 46-48, 51-53, 55, 72-88, 113-114, 116-126, 129-143, 152-169, 172-175, 197-212, 214-222, 243-256, 261-270, 272-278, 282-283, 296-302, 321-323, 325-326, 329, 332-337, 339-345, 362-375, 378-384, 387, 391-393, 414-415, 418, 420-421, 424-425, 459, 463, 470, 473-477, 484-500
Mixed Canon/Filler Episodes:1-19, 24-25, 45, 49-50, 54, 56, 89-90, 115, 127-128, 213, 324, 327-328, 330-331, 338, 346, 385-386, 419, 426, 451-458, 460-462, 471-472, 478-479
Filler Episodes:28, 57-71, 91-112, 144-151, 170-171, 176-196, 223-242, 257-260, 271, 279-281, 284-295, 303-320, 347-361, 376-377, 388-390, 394-413, 416-417, 422-423, 427-450, 464-469, 480-483
Once in Chat, I said I do not see MHA as a great series, I got tons of hate. It is a mediocre series and with its toxic fanbase, it just gets worse. If anything else, I can say it is one series where side-characters are more interesting than the protagonist.
a) All humans get powers and when our hero was told by a doctor, he had none, what did our protagonist do? He did not boost his physical prowess but just watched feel-good videos. There are many parallels whether it was Naruto or Asta (Naruto and Black Clover) where a person is relatively powerless compared to the rest of the society, they strive to compensate for the lack of things.
b) The guy gets his power literary on a platter, he did not do anything for it. Moreover, why Deku got the Power is not justified. He was not selfless in saving a friend from the slime-monster. Selfless is when you can do something for others and when you have some bit of probability of success. Selfless is also when you can throw your self in danger but have a chance to save someone else. Deku did not have any chance of saving anyone, instead, he would give the foe two people as hostages. Even the anime itself gives a comparison, with Vermillion. And, whether it is hard work, intelligence, perseverance, ideals, or physical strength our protagonist does not stand before him.
c) When someone has an issue of not having great power, e.g. One Piece, frankly, Luffy is an elastic man or Naruto who had no special powers, to begin with, we go on a journey of their self-discovery, getting stronger and there is a mystique on how they will become head of the village or of the pirate kingdom. All the while the power to dream ratio just does not seem to be possible. In the case of Deku, he was given Kryptonite-less Superman’s power right at the start. All he has to do is get stronger physically and all is done. The only journey he has to go on is to become Arnold Schwarzenegger.
d) Even physically if he worked out for a long time to attain a-bit of the power, he lost all silly sports tournament in his class. You lose running/sprinting against an invisible girl? There is something wrong with you.
e) The Protagonist always has self-doubts, he then goes into 5 mins of contemplation, then thinks of heroes he wants to be like, then comes some music and he beats the foe. – This cycle when happens for the first time it is awesome, however, when it is a forever cycle it just is too much.
f) There are just endless student-tournaments which do not do much for the story, they are just repetitive for no reason. All the tournaments etc bring around 20-30 new characters, and their quirks and then all these people just disappear you never hear from them.
g) Lastly, most fights of MHA are boring on technicalities. It’s like Superman fights, there is a lot of heart and emotions and effects, but all you would see in the end who has a bigger punch. Kick, throw, punch through things – that’s it.
h) It is just an ok series at best.
Noblesse – Only has Manhua as of now. There is one OVA which was released a while ago. Post that many studios have been trying to make an Animated version. Supposedly we might get an Anime next year or so. Till then we only have the comic, but the comic but is super fun.
I remembered you like Vampire stuff, thus was suggested. and their art is to my liking.
If you want Filler Killer list -
Naruto (Can mostly skip also the Mixed)
Manga Canon Episodes:1-6, 8, 10-13, 17, 22, 25, 31-36, 42, 48, 50-51, 61-62, 64-65, 67-68, 73, 75-82, 84-96, 107-111, 115-125, 128-129, 132-135
Mixed Canon/Filler Episodes:7, 9, 14-16, 18-21, 23-24, 27-30, 37-41, 43-47, 49, 52-60, 63, 66, 69-72, 74, 83, 98-100, 112-114, 126-127, 130-131, 141-142, 220
Filler Episodes:26, 97, 101-106, 136-140, 143-219
Naruto Shippuden (Similarly can skip Mixed and stick to Canon Episode)
Manga Canon Episodes:20-23, 26-27, 29-44, 46-48, 51-53, 55, 72-88, 113-114, 116-126, 129-143, 152-169, 172-175, 197-212, 214-222, 243-256, 261-270, 272-278, 282-283, 296-302, 321-323, 325-326, 329, 332-337, 339-345, 362-375, 378-384, 387, 391-393, 414-415, 418, 420-421, 424-425, 459, 463, 470, 473-477, 484-500
Mixed Canon/Filler Episodes:1-19, 24-25, 45, 49-50, 54, 56, 89-90, 115, 127-128, 213, 324, 327-328, 330-331, 338, 346, 385-386, 419, 426, 451-458, 460-462, 471-472, 478-479
Filler Episodes:28, 57-71, 91-112, 144-151, 170-171, 176-196, 223-242, 257-260, 271, 279-281, 284-295, 303-320, 347-361, 376-377, 388-390, 394-413, 416-417, 422-423, 427-450, 464-469, 480-483
@Pinguu You have valid points. I can be critical of stuff I like but there are plenty of people who will attack you but not agreeing with them. You opened a pretty big can of worms by saying that though. You made good points. I think Deku means well though, I think he is selfless to the point where it becomes stupidity. There were points where he nearly kills his class and the people he is trying to save because he was trying to save people. He's a nice guy and his heart is in the right place which is the saving grace. He's likeable but he is really dumb. He doesn't understand how the hero stuff works and that you can't possibly save everyone. Deku wants to save people over himself, but you're useless if you can't save yourself and control your own powers which is frustrating. I think that's an interesting plot point though.
The student tournaments are the MHA version of their filler episodes. They don't add anything to plot, but they are fun. It kept me interested in watching even though it had nothing to do with the plot directly and I have a pretty low attention span sometimes.
And I think it's ok, it kept me interested. I think it's cute and the characters are likeable. It's not the best thing I ever watched. I am gonna keep watching until I get bored of it.
The student tournaments are the MHA version of their filler episodes. They don't add anything to plot, but they are fun. It kept me interested in watching even though it had nothing to do with the plot directly and I have a pretty low attention span sometimes.
And I think it's ok, it kept me interested. I think it's cute and the characters are likeable. It's not the best thing I ever watched. I am gonna keep watching until I get bored of it.
@Busty_Nerd
Nothing you have said is wrong. I agree with you mostly.
I know he means well, and his heart is in the right place. I also felt most of the fights got a good amount of heart as well. However, the trope of “timing” gets overplayed. He saves from Slime Monster as AllMight was around. He goes to save his classmate, with his own set of noob-classmates, he would have got ALL of them killed, only but gets to save the day as other heroes arrived. That just does not sit well with me. If one wants to help it is a really honourable intent, but not without a plan or not by complicating things further. I did mention I find side-characters really endearing. Even the sticky ball guy (I forgot his name) he is a massive comic relief. I suppose I saw last season purely due to Vermillion, he was one of the best anime characters with a good, warm, healthy back story.
Tournaments as an arc were established by Naruto if anything. There was a famous arc called “Chunin Exams”. And you are again right when you say they are super fun. However, mostly when tournaments are used as a plot in an Anime, e.g. Naruto, HunterXHunter, Black Clover, God of HighSchool, they a) introduce new characters with their own craziness that add to the world-building the anime is trying to do or b) build on the core set of characters. In MHA, tournaments are filler trope and thus I get disappointed.
Thank you for bringing your thoughts, I took a long time wondering should I write a detailed reply or not.
I know I would get hate, but it’s all right. Online hate is just pixels.
Nothing you have said is wrong. I agree with you mostly.
I know he means well, and his heart is in the right place. I also felt most of the fights got a good amount of heart as well. However, the trope of “timing” gets overplayed. He saves from Slime Monster as AllMight was around. He goes to save his classmate, with his own set of noob-classmates, he would have got ALL of them killed, only but gets to save the day as other heroes arrived. That just does not sit well with me. If one wants to help it is a really honourable intent, but not without a plan or not by complicating things further. I did mention I find side-characters really endearing. Even the sticky ball guy (I forgot his name) he is a massive comic relief. I suppose I saw last season purely due to Vermillion, he was one of the best anime characters with a good, warm, healthy back story.
Tournaments as an arc were established by Naruto if anything. There was a famous arc called “Chunin Exams”. And you are again right when you say they are super fun. However, mostly when tournaments are used as a plot in an Anime, e.g. Naruto, HunterXHunter, Black Clover, God of HighSchool, they a) introduce new characters with their own craziness that add to the world-building the anime is trying to do or b) build on the core set of characters. In MHA, tournaments are filler trope and thus I get disappointed.
Thank you for bringing your thoughts, I took a long time wondering should I write a detailed reply or not.
I know I would get hate, but it’s all right. Online hate is just pixels.
@Pinguu
Now let me address everything you said I was tired when I wrote my post. The other things you said... I don't think he's like super man. Yes they did give him a very powerful quirk but he still doesn't know how to use it. He can still be killed. They didn't god mod him. He's still a human with weaknesses and he's still a kid learning how things work. If you only watched season one I can understand your criticisms of it as it wasn't explained in depth just yet and everything was just being introduced.
If you watched the other seasons I disagree with this Deku is learning how to be a hero which includes how to use his powers because right now it's too powerful for him. He does have arcs of self discovery which is learning how tough the world is around him and how you can't possibly save everyone around you. It's not fair to say he doesn't grow as a person or a hero because he does. He has to learn tough lessons of the real world that people die, people get hurt, not everyone is as lucky as him and heroes have a very dangerous job. It's not all parties and amazing news stories and feel good pieces on the news. It's serious work and I think he realizes as the series goes on that this is real work. It's much deeper than that and I think it keeps Deku leveled. They didn't make him immediately all god modded and powerful. He may never get to All Might's level even with training.
And IDK I think this keeps him grounded and humble. I don't think I could stand to watch the show if they made the protagonist like Bakugo. I think that's what makes him likeable that he isn't all confident. I can see where sometimes it would get annoying.
Also thanks for the list of non filler episodes I guess now I really have no choice but I watch. And maybe i'll look up Noblesse that art looks so pretty just wow. I love it!
Now let me address everything you said I was tired when I wrote my post. The other things you said... I don't think he's like super man. Yes they did give him a very powerful quirk but he still doesn't know how to use it. He can still be killed. They didn't god mod him. He's still a human with weaknesses and he's still a kid learning how things work. If you only watched season one I can understand your criticisms of it as it wasn't explained in depth just yet and everything was just being introduced.
If you watched the other seasons I disagree with this Deku is learning how to be a hero which includes how to use his powers because right now it's too powerful for him. He does have arcs of self discovery which is learning how tough the world is around him and how you can't possibly save everyone around you. It's not fair to say he doesn't grow as a person or a hero because he does. He has to learn tough lessons of the real world that people die, people get hurt, not everyone is as lucky as him and heroes have a very dangerous job. It's not all parties and amazing news stories and feel good pieces on the news. It's serious work and I think he realizes as the series goes on that this is real work. It's much deeper than that and I think it keeps Deku leveled. They didn't make him immediately all god modded and powerful. He may never get to All Might's level even with training.
And IDK I think this keeps him grounded and humble. I don't think I could stand to watch the show if they made the protagonist like Bakugo. I think that's what makes him likeable that he isn't all confident. I can see where sometimes it would get annoying.
Also thanks for the list of non filler episodes I guess now I really have no choice but I watch. And maybe i'll look up Noblesse that art looks so pretty just wow. I love it!
@Busty_Nerd
Hello,
Awesome reply. I get and understand almost all the counters you present. Especially, you are right I cannot see Bakugo taking the lead either. It would be lazy writing.
I guess where we are split in the views is, when there is already a world where loads of heroes and villains exist, I do not feel someone has to learn that the world is harsh, the job is dangerous and people can get hurt or die, especially if you try to meddle with things that are way beyond your comprehension. That makes me feel the main guy is a waste, however it just my view on things. The way you see it as a journey I accept that as well. On the people around him, we both feel there is a lot of charm.
As for fillers, when an anime is like Naruto where they released 300 episodes a year and if 100 were filler, the 200 episodes still give a good number of stories. When it is 24 episodes and 5-6 are fillers it disappoints me.
Naruto, that fillers list was my bible to make sure I could just get rid of the most boring and completely random side stories.
Noblesse art is beautiful, and the story has a lot of worlds building but same time there is a good dash of silly humour.
Hello,
Awesome reply. I get and understand almost all the counters you present. Especially, you are right I cannot see Bakugo taking the lead either. It would be lazy writing.
I guess where we are split in the views is, when there is already a world where loads of heroes and villains exist, I do not feel someone has to learn that the world is harsh, the job is dangerous and people can get hurt or die, especially if you try to meddle with things that are way beyond your comprehension. That makes me feel the main guy is a waste, however it just my view on things. The way you see it as a journey I accept that as well. On the people around him, we both feel there is a lot of charm.
As for fillers, when an anime is like Naruto where they released 300 episodes a year and if 100 were filler, the 200 episodes still give a good number of stories. When it is 24 episodes and 5-6 are fillers it disappoints me.
Naruto, that fillers list was my bible to make sure I could just get rid of the most boring and completely random side stories.
Noblesse art is beautiful, and the story has a lot of worlds building but same time there is a good dash of silly humour.
Currently watching banana fish and looking forward to watching mob psycho 100, mushishi or k on after this
@Cryptic_cxx
Mob Pyscho both seasons are fun , K is all right
I haven't seen Mushishi, too many in my backlog
Mob Pyscho both seasons are fun , K is all right
I haven't seen Mushishi, too many in my backlog
Yeah I've heard a lot about mob psycho and I generally like chill and slice of life anime like "sangatso no lion" and "tatami galaxy" that's why I added k on and mushishi in there dunno how good they are
@Cryptic_cxx
Somewhere, a slice of life is getting better and better. A lot of strong storylines and characters. However, not a genre I could explore, so my knowledge is zilch when it comes to these Anime/Manga
Somewhere, a slice of life is getting better and better. A lot of strong storylines and characters. However, not a genre I could explore, so my knowledge is zilch when it comes to these Anime/Manga
Currently watching Dragon Ball Kai
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Is this thread still active? I'm looking forward to Fruits Basket the final season. Was excited for the promised Neverland, but dropped it due to the changes made. Currently watching... nothing. I'm in a slump. I was watching Jujutsu Kaisen and AoT, but haven't watched the past couple episodes.
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