As much as I think Tr.umps ' foriegn policy ' efforts are a joke, and his silly defense of the Saudis a stain on our country and further weakens our world standing. There is a history of supporting and making allies of bad leaders and governments. To the U.S supported the governments of El Salavador , Honduras and Nicaragua during their cival wars. These governments detained citizens without trial , had military or civilian state sponsored death squads and ' disappeared ' thousan ds. Saddam Hussain was our ally before he was our enemy. So was Augusto Pinochet in Chile and Noriega in Panama be both dictators. There should be punishment for the Saudis for what they did. But America has always looked out for it's own self interests above the plight of suffering people around the world. So no one should be surprised if nothing happens. After all it is only what we have always done.
You don't read well. Of course they have. I said specifically our country has a history of it. I didn't say only Republicans. Persecution complex I see. Lol
See everyone more evidence those on the right are like a cult and brainwashed. I basically said although I disagree with TR.umps handling of the situation there is precedent for it. I didn't mention the political party of any of the administrations during the incidents I mentioned. But all @Lamar56 heard was criticism of Tr.ump and went on the attack . Sad lol Honestly this is probably the closest I will ever get to giving the orange facist a pass on anything and some idiot still wanted to argue . Lol
Again I AM NOT A Tr.ump supporter ; and as far as being brainwashed ; it is Democrates who think that their supporter should tow the line and vote for them i.e. the black vote !!!
My point is the Democrat party wants there supporters to vote in lock step with them . e.i. like slaves !! And if you don't you are a racist or a biggot or an Uncle Tom !!
You know one day people will realise that all each side does is set everyone against each other. They work at opposites, when really both sides should work together for what's best for the people. Not what lines there pocket best..
Lots of Poor Senators here.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_wealth
You are a bit on the aggressive side today. Didn't eat your Wheaties? Anyway I didn't post this thread to talk about this nonsense. They thread isn't really about Democrats vs Republicans. But since it is of course a public thread you can post what you want. I'm going to ignore you .After I tell you to fuck off you ignorant redneck fool. You have no idea what an Uncle Tom even is . With that fuck you . Have a good day ranting about nonsense.
https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/net-worth?cid=N00033085 Wiki is good, but its always based on what people enter. Sometimes you ahve to go off pat. But back onto the subject. A lot of countries have bad histories with dealing with people in dictatorships. But in the age we are now when you can have marches for LGBT rights, but can't have marches to remember the dead of 2 world wars. You have to consider if your dancing with the right devil..
Well i am a Constitutional Conservative and a Christian . I put my trust in God not men !! And i put God first , my country second and myself last and i try to respect all people regardless of race , creed , personal beliefs or political party !! I choose not to trash this country even though it has had many faults !!
Yes you are right it isn't just the U.S who has a history of dealing with dictators. Politics does indeed make for odd bedfellows. And I'm not even saying the U.S was wrong to have had those dealings at the time.Well it was but when put between a rock and a hard place you do what you can to protect yourself and interests. The Saudis are our allies . Whatever else happens that most likely will not change. My point is that everyone is up in arms about this as they should be. But the reality is these types of things have happened before and will happen again. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be recognized for what it is which is fucked up. But so is the world we live in. This will blow over eventually. And everyone will forget their momentarily outrage. Especially if gas prices go down or the Saudis agree to invest more here . This game is much bigger than us.
I think the lesson we have learned is don't get in fistfights with 18 Saudis. Damn they didn't even try to come up with anything half ass credible. Just let's throw some shit out and see if it sticks.
I think America needs to keep their nose in their own business. We need to stop trying to make friends with every other country. People are suffering in our own Country and those people need to come first before we worry about anyone else
Following this discussion - Love the forthrightness, the intelligence. the fervor. So long as any such can avoid vitriol and derision . . which is unfortunately too often the default in these kinds of conversations. Empathy is so important, so elusive in the charged and volatile world of politics. For my part, forgive me. I haven't much to add - except the concluding lyrics to Paul Simon's "An American Tune" which always brings a choke to my throat. Because this is a great country--in its virtues and its vices. Just like the rest of us. _____ And I dreamed I was flying And high up above my eyes could clearly see The Statue of Liberty Sailing away to sea And I dreamed I was flying We come on the ship they call the Mayflower We come on the ship that sailed the moon We come in the age's most uncertain hour and sing an American tune But it's all right, it's all right You can't be forever blessed Still, tomorrow's going to be another working day And I'm trying to get some rest That's all I'm trying to get some rest
Will Republicans in Congress defy Tr.ump and vote to punish Saudi Arabia? Or will they do what they normally do which is Jack shit? Tune in next week folks to ' Will the Repubs grow a pair' hosted by me Devon same time same station.
