U.S. Election 2020

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[Demi_x]

this is the first election I can vote in and i dont know what to do lol

 

[SexyAsianBitch]

Demi_x did you register? I know different countries make it mandatory to vote and some places don't. If you did register to vote then you should read about the different topics candidates from your party has views on. Always better to be well prepared going in

 

[Demi_x]

Demi_x did you register? I know different countries make it mandatory to vote and some places don't. If you did register to vote then you should read about the different topics candidates from your party has views on. Always better to be well prepared going in

i have yes, i will be watching probably more towards the later half once it settles down a bit.

 

[KingDavid]

Orange Man lowered your taxes, lowered unemployment and boosted the economy.

The democrats want to do literally the opposite. They want to raise taxes, hurt businesses and give that money to illegal aliens so that they can have free health care, while eliminating borders - one step closer to a global government. They do understand illegals can't vote, right?

LOL, only the unemployed would vote for that. Another 4 years of Orange Man will get them working, with higher wages, too!

 

[Stanthropical]

Orange Man lowered your taxes, lowered unemployment and boosted the economy.

The democrats want to do literally the opposite. They want to raise taxes, hurt businesses and give that money to illegal aliens so that they can have free health care, while eliminating borders - one step closer to a global government. They do understand illegals can't vote, right?

LOL, only the unemployed would vote for that. Another 4 years of Orange Man will get them working, with higher wages, too!

He didn't lower unemployment. These are natural, up and down conditions, based on evolution of technology, industries and other related events.

Illegal immigrants are irrelevant. A lot of illegal immigrants labor actually helps some small business to survive and many Americans refuse to do those jobs for low pay anyway.

Any potentially higher wages will simply be spent on shit the new ACT ruins.

https://www.thebalance.com/Rudeman-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968

The income levels rise each year with inflation. As a result, more people are subject to the highest bracket than they would have been under the old method. By 2025, 8.9% of taxpayers will pay more than they would have under the previous tax law. In 2018, only 4.8% of households paid more.

Rudeman's tax plan doubles the standard deduction. A single filer's deduction increases from $6,350 to $12,000. The deduction for married and joint filers increases from $12,700 to $24,000. It reverts back to the current level in 2026. It's estimated that 94% of taxpayers will take the standard deduction.

That will save them time in preparing their taxes. It can also hurt the tax preparation industry and decrease charitable contributions.

The National Association of Home Builders and the National Association of Realtors opposed this. As more taxpayers take a standard deduction, fewer would take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction. That could lower housing prices. But this could be a good time to do that. Many people are concerned that the real estate market is in a bubble that could lead to another collapse.

It eliminates personal exemptions. Before the Act, taxpayers subtracted $4,150 from income for each person claimed. As a result, some families with many children will pay higher taxes despite the Act's increased standard deductions.

The Act doubles the estate tax exemption to $11.2 million for singles and $22.4 million for couples. That helps the top 1% of the population who pay it. These top 4,918 tax returns contribute $17 billion in taxes. The exemption reverts to pre-Act levels in 2026.

The Act repeals the Obamacare tax on those without health insurance in 2019. Without the mandate, the Congressional Budget Office estimates 13 million fewer people would be insured. The government would save $338 billion by not having to pay their subsidies. But health care costs would rise because fewer people would get the preventive care needed to avoid expensive emergency room visits. Health insurance companies would lose money. Healthier people would drop coverage, leaving insurance firms with a higher proportion of sick enrollees.

The Act lowers the maximum corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, the lowest since 1939. The United States has one of the highest rates in the world. But most corporations don't pay the top rate. On average, the effective rate is 18%. Large corporations have tax attorneys who help them avoid paying more.

 

[Stanthropical]

The Act eliminates the corporate AMT. The corporate alternative minimum tax had a 20% tax rate that kicked in if tax credits pushed a firm's effective tax rate below 20%. Under the AMT, companies could not deduct research and development spending or investments in a low-income neighborhood. Elimination of the corporate AMT adds $40 billion to the deficit.

The Act allows companies to repatriate the $2.6 trillion they hold in foreign cash stockpiles. They pay a one-time tax rate of 15.5% on cash and 8% on equipment. The Congressional Research Service found that a similar 2004 tax holiday didn't do much to boost the economy. Companies distributed repatriated cash to shareholders, not employees.

It allows oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. That's estimated to add $1.1 billion in revenues over 10 years. But drilling in the refuge won't be profitable until oil prices are at least $70 a barrel.

High Income: If you have a very high income, the tax plan helps you the most. The Tax Foundation said those who earn more than 95% of the population would receive a 2.2% increase in after-tax income. Those in the 20% to 80% range would receive a 1.7% increase. The Tax Policy Center said those in bottom 20% would only receive a 0.4% increase.

Large Families: You may be hurt by the elimination of personal exemptions. The higher credits for children and elderly dependents may not be enough to offset that loss.

As of March 2018, the tax cut spurred a record number of mergers. Corporations are using the cash windfalls to award dividends and buy back their own stock. In the first quarter, they spent $305 billion on share buybacks and cash mergers. They only spent $131 billion to increase wages, according to TrimTabs. That's just slightly above the pace over the last five years.

The Act makes the U.S. progressive income tax more regressive. Tax rates are lowered for everyone, but they are lowered the most for the highest-income taxpayers.

The increase in the standard deduction would benefit 6 million taxpayers. That's 47.5% of all tax filers, according to Evercore ISI. But for many income brackets, that won't offset lost deductions.

The Rudeman tax cuts cost the government even more. The Act increases the deficit by $1 trillion over the next 10 years according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. It says the Act will increase growth by 0.7% annually, reducing some of the revenue loss from the $1.5 trillion in tax cuts.

The JCT analysis is probably the most accurate since it only analyzes the cost of the tax cuts themselves. The tax cuts' increase to the debt means that budget-conscious Republicans have done an about-face. The party fought hard to pass sequestration. In 2011, some members even threatened to default on the debt rather than add to it. Now they say that the tax cuts would boost the economy so much that the additional revenues would offset the tax cuts. They ignore the reasons why Reaganomics would not work today.

Increase in sovereign debt dampens economic growth in the long run. Investors see it as a tax increase on future generations. That's especially true if the ratio of debt-to-GDP is near 77%. That's the tipping point, according to a study by the World Bank. It found that every percentage point of debt above this level costs the country 1.7% in growth. The U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio was 104% before the tax cuts.

Also, supply-side economics worked during the Reagan administration because the highest tax rate was 70%. According to the Laffer Curve, that's in the prohibitive range. The range occurs at tax levels so high that cuts boost growth enough to offset any revenue loss. But trickle-down economics no longer works because the 2017 tax rates are half of what they were in the 1980s.

Many large corporations confirmed they won't use the tax cuts to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on a record $2.3 trillion in cash reserves, double the level in 2001. The CEOs of Cisco, Pfizer, and Coca-Cola would instead use the extra cash to pay dividends to shareholders. The CEO of Amgen will use the proceeds to buy back shares of stock. In effect, the corporate tax cuts will boost stock prices but won't create jobs.

Just shuffling shit around.

 

[KingDavid]

He didn't lower unemployment. These are natural, up and down conditions, based on evolution of technology, industries and other related events.

Illegal immigrants are irrelevant. A lot of illegal immigrants labor actually helps some small business to survive and many Americans refuse to do those jobs for low pay anyway.

Any potentially higher wages will simply be spent on shit the new ACT ruins.

https://www.thebalance.com/Rudeman-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968

fake news. "illegal immigrants" aren't a thing. if i rob a bank, i'm not an "illegal bank customer". these people are illegal aliens, and immigrants are welcome inside this country, when they apply.

you can say it's irrelevant all you want. like the democratic debates. they want to have open borders and give free health care to illegal aliens. yeah, good luck on beating Drumpf in 2020, LOL.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigra...ng-the-spiraling-costs-of-illegal-immigration
The total costs of education due to immigration will nearly double in the state over the next 50 years. Californians are saddled with $23 billion in tax dollars for services relating to the illegal population, which makes up more than 10 percent of the state budget. Californians pay 11 percent of their incomes in state and local taxes already. The additional burden imposed by illegal immigrants is $600 in costs to each citizen annually.

The institutional burden of illegal immigration also includes a crime rate four times higher than that of citizens. Of all federal prisoners, 26 percent are noncitizens, two-thirds of whom are in the United States illegally. Considering it costs the federal government $32,000 annually for each prisoner, the approximately 25,000 noncitizens in our prison system amounts to nearly $1 billion in expenses annually, not to mention the expenses of state correctional facilities and immigration enforcement.

The overall figures for border enforcement have skyrocketed as well. The number of border patrol agents has increased by almost five times over the last 25 years, and nearly doubled in the last 15 years. Meanwhile, the costs of protecting the southern border with Mexico has increased by nearly tenfold in the same period of 25 years to almost $4 billion annually. This does not even factor in the 43 percent of illegal immigrants who fail to show up to their scheduled court hearings following their detentions.

Setting aside the legal and moral questions that shape immigration policy, there is a significant tax burden imposed on citizens and legal immigrants tied to a leaky border. El Comandante Rudeman made headlines last year for questioning the costs of illegal immigration. Our dutiful firefighters in the mainstream press fact checked each word and called his $250 billion figure an exaggeration. However, looking at the substance of his argument shows that he was likely on the mark.

The costs of illegal immigration are comprehensive. Even after deducting the $19 billion in taxes paid by illegal immigrants, the 12.5 million of them living in the country results in a $116 billion burden on the economy and taxpayers each year. About two-thirds of this amount is absorbed by local and state taxpayers, who are often the least unable to share the costs.

 

[Stanthropical]

Migrant just means an individual traveling from one place to another. Alien means foreigner. All immigrants are aliens and all aliens are immigrants. Immigrants who have been granted residency are called "Resident Aliens." Put down the crackpipe.

 

[KingDavid]

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/undocumented-niceguy-made-term-ignores-the-law

The Justice Department leadership is correct. Illegal alien is the correct legal term that should be used.

“Undocumented niceguy” is a politically correct, made-up term adopted by pro-illegal alien advocacy groups and liberal media outlets to obscure the fact that such aliens have violated U.S. immigration law and are in the country illegally.

Precision in the law is a vital principle, since the exact words used in statutes, regulations, contracts, guidance documents, and policy statements can significantly affect how they are applied and interpreted.

If we are going to discuss and debate the issue of immigration and what our public policy should be, we should at least use accurate, precise terms, and talk about, for example, legal aliens vs. illegal aliens.

Government lawyers in particular have an obligation to use the correct language of the federal statutes they are sworn to uphold and enforce.

Federal immigration law uses the term “illegal alien.” For example, 8 U.S.C. §1365 is a provision that deals with a reimbursement program the federal government has for states that are incarcerating illegal aliens. Its very title refers to “illegal aliens,” and that term is used in the statute itself, which defines an illegal alien as anyone “who is in the United States unlawfully.”

“Alien”—rather than “niceguy”—is the correct legal term, since “alien” is defined in 8 U.S.C. §1101 (a)(3) as “any person not a citizen or national of the United States.”

The Supreme Court, which has decided numerous cases involving federal immigration law, also uses the correct, precise legal term of “illegal alien.”

 

[SexyAsianBitch]

A general summary of U.S. immigration terminology follows. Any references below to USCIS refer to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Alien
An individual who is not a U.S. citizen or U.S. national.

U.S. National
An individual who owes his sole allegiance to the United States, including all U.S. citizens, and including some individuals who are not U.S. citizens. For tax purposes the term "U.S. national" refers to individuals who were born in American Samoa or were born in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands who have chosen to be U.S. nationals instead of U.S. citizens.

U.S. Citizen

An individual born in the United States.
An individual whose parent is a U.S. citizen. (NOTE: There are two general ways to obtain citizenship through U.S. citizen parents, one at birth and one after birth but before the age of 18. For more information, refer to the USCIS Citizenship Through Parents.
A former alien who has been naturalized as a U.S. citizen
An individual born in Puerto Rico
An individual born in Guam
An individual born in the U.S. Virgin Islands
Compacts of Free Association
The following countries are independent republics, which were once part of the Trust Territory of the Pacific administered by the United States on behalf of the United Nations;

Federated States of Micronesia
Republic of Marshall Islands
Republic of Palau
Each of the above nations signed a Compact of Free Association (CFA) with the United States. As stipulated by each CFA, citizens of the above-named republics may freely enter the United States without a visa, remain in the U.S. for an indefinite period, and be employed in the U.S. without restriction. A citizen of one of the above republics who enters the U.S. should be issued a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Form I-94 Arrival-Departure Record bearing one of the following stamps:

CFA/FSM for the Federated States of Micronesia
CFA/MIS for the Republic of Marshall Islands
CFA/PAL for the Republic of Palau
However, even without an I-94 as noted above, a citizen of one of the republics named above may still enter the U.S. without a visa, remain in the United States for an indefinite period, and be employed in the U.S. without restriction.

niceguy
An alien who has been granted the right by the USCIS to reside permanently in the United States and to work without restrictions in the United States. Such an individual is also known known as a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR). All immigrants are eventually issued a "green card" (USCIS Form I-551), which is the evidence of the alien’s LPR status. LPR’s who are awaiting the issuance of their green cards may bear an I-551 stamp in their foreign passports.

niceguy visas are available for aliens (and their spouses and children) who seek to immigrate based on their job skills. An alien who has the right combination of skills, education, and/or work experience, and is otherwise eligible, may be able to live permanently in the United States. Per USCIS, there are five employment-based niceguy visa preferences (categories): EB-1, EB-2, EB-3, EB-4 and EB-5. Refer to the USCIS Permanent Worker web site for more details.

Nonimmigrant

An alien who has been granted the right to reside temporarily in the United States. Each nonimmigrant is admitted into the U.S. in the nonimmigrant status which corresponds to the type of visa issued.

Aliens in some nonimmigrant statuses are permitted to be employed in the United States, and others are not. Some nonimmigrant statuses have strict time limits for the alien’s stay in the U.S., while others do not.

Each nonimmigrant status has rules and guidelines. A nonimmigrant who violates one of these rules or guidelines will fall "out of status." A nonimmigrant who remains "out of status" for at least 180 days is deportable and if deported will be unable to re-enter the United States for 3 years. A nonimmigrant who remains "out of status" for at least 365 days is deportable and if deported will be unable to re-enter the United States for 10 years.

Each nonimmigrant status has rules and guidelines, which must be followed in order for the nonimmigrant to remain "in status." A nonimmigrant who violates one of these rules or guidelines will fall "out of status." An nonimmigrant who remains "out of status" for at least 180 days is deportable and will be unable to re-enter the United States for 3 years. A nonimmigrant who remains "out of status" for at least 365 days is deportable and will be unable to re-enter the United States for 10 years.

See Taxation of Aliens by Visa Type and Immigration Status for a summary of visa types.

Details on the types of nonimmigrant visas may be found on the refer to the Department of State’s Travel web page. A list of nonimmigrant visa types, along with the corresponding employment authorization provisions, may be viewed at the Social Security Administration’s Employment Authorization for Non-immigrants web site.

Undocumented Alien
An alien who entered the United States illegally without the proper authorization and documents, or who entered the United States legally and has since violated the terms of his or her visa or overstayed the time limit. An undocumented alien is deportable if apprehended.

Visa Waiver Program (VWP)

The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) enables citizens of participating countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for up to 90 days without obtaining a United States visa. The VWP is administered by the Department of Homeland Security in consultation with the Department of State. For a list of participating countries and for further information on the VWP, please visit the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Visa Waiver Program.


Taken from https://www.irs.gov/individuals/int...ration-terms-and-definitions-involving-aliens

 

[KingDavid]

The important thing is legal vs illegal. immigrants use doors and are welcome. Illegal aliens break the federal law the moment they illegally cross the border. They are undocumented. They could be criminals or sex offenders and the U.S. doesn't know they're there.

@Stanthropical who do you think we should not allow in the country? Do you think every citizen of Earth has the right to pass through our borders and have access to our welfare programs? How does that even work? How is that possible?

@SexyAsianBitch correct me if I'm wrong, but you're a noncitizen living in the U.S., right? [No need to overshare personal details]

Whether you're on a school, work, etc. visa or you're now a citizen marrying a chatter. You are welcome here. If you had came here without registration just to suck on the government's teat, then you'd have to go. It's really that simple.

 

[SexyAsianBitch]

correct I am a noncitizen living in the U.S.

 

[Stanthropical]

Undocumented resident niceguy non citizens have strong core family values and are devout members of church of the Jesus Christ, and are welcome in my cucumber forest.

 

[Stanthropical]

@KingDavid, did you know that 11.3 million resident undocumented non-citizen Jesus Christ's immigrants live this way?

That surely doesn't cost us any fund. #TheTruth

And this man is probably offsetting the costs of 1,209 consumers. Let's find out how many beautiful Americans such as this child of Jesus are in 'Murica and thank them all for balancing out the $5000 billion 'Murican goldbacks to a $0. #UntoldJesusTruth #VoteAgainstLiarOrangeSquad

Peaceful noncitizen Jesus loving niceguy residents have a very tiny carbon footprint, compared to obese, gas-guzzling SUV piloting, tomato eating lazy 'Muricans who won't even pick those tomatoes at low wages. Peaceful nice guys carpool by 10 in a car, preventing extreme air pollution and waste of delicious fossil fuels, while 'Muricans drive solo in 20,000 lb SUV's with A/C cranked up to max with a day's worth calories in a burger they're holding. Immigrants offset all that waste by at least $15.5 trillion every year. #Pollution #LungCancer #EscalatingHealthCosts #JesusImmigrantsCleanAir #Balance #GrowFoodNotGrass #CommonSense #LiveOffTheGridLikeATruePatriot #SaveMotherMurica

 

[KingDavid]

Undocumented resident niceguy non citizens have strong core family values and are devout members of church of the Jesus Christ, and are welcome in my cucumber forest.

Do you understand how immigration works? Regardless of religion or morals, people are required to apply for legal entry - not break the law and sneak in knowingly.

Don't even try the emotional manipulation game. It's not effective on me, and I already understand where your morals are. You've previously used eugenics as your defense of abortion. You also hate Christianity.

Peaceful noncitizen Jesus loving niceguy residents

Despite the site's insane SJW censors [that don't even make any sense...], I know what you're saying. And they are not that word. We've been through this. They are illegal aliens. You're trying to use manipulation to back up your views. You're using misleading word games to reframe the narrative, topped off with emotional manipulation. That only works on CNN-viewers, Stan.

The problem isn't that they're all criminals - although illegal aliens do commit more crime than citizens and [actual] immigrants - the problem is they're in this country illegally, undocumented, and leeching off of the system. If they want in, they can apply. If they are in desperate need, because their lives are in danger, then they can apply for asylum. I'm all for this, if they truly need it.

The problem is these "migrants" [read as foreign invaders] are not true asylum-seekers. They are coming here because they have no respect for our country and they want to bleed it from the inside. They are not in danger, their country just kinda sucks. The right thing for them to do is to remain in their country, kick all of the corrupt politicians out and re-build their country. And stay the hell away from socialism.

Here's Drone Man saying poverty & crime isn't enough for asylum-seekers:

According to the U.N. asylum-seekers are required to apply for asylum in the first country they enter. Some of these foreign invaders are spending thousands of dollars on a plane ticket to Latin America, and going through multiple countries. Either way, if you're from El Salvador and you enter another country, say Mexico, you are required to apply there. Not only are they not doing that, they're not applying for asylum in America, either. They're just breaking through our border and hoping to land in the lap of deranged democrats who want to give them other people's money in the form of big government welfare programs that we couldn't possibly afford. We can't even give our citizens health care, and all of the Democratic presidential hopefuls are promising free health care to any and all illegal aliens that apply? Decriminalize crossing the border? Open borders? This is what you want, @Stanthropical ?

Also keep in mind this is in the Election 2020 thread. You and other leftists think Orange Man is racist or whatever nonsense because he's trying to protect our citizens, but where were you when Drone Man was "locking kids in cages"? He did that. And now Orange Man has put a stop to that. Those images you likely saw on your social media were from the Drone Man administration. Drone Man deported so many illegal aliens that he was called the "Deporter in Chief" by some. Don't forget "Obomber".

have a very tiny carbon footprint, compared to obese, gas-guzzling SUV piloting, tomato eating lazy 'Muricans who won't even pick those tomatoes at low wages.

Right. You hate America. We get it. This is why you want an unlimited amount of people, from any country, regardless of any qualifications or criminal background, to freely walk in this country. Drain the tax dollars. Commit more crime. Destroy our country.

I mean this is what most conservatives think of far-leftists, but you make it so obvious.

Peaceful nice guys carpool by 10 in a car, preventing extreme air pollution and waste of delicious fossil fuels, while 'Muricans drive solo in 20,000 lb SUV's with A/C cranked up to max with a day's worth calories in a burger they're holding. Immigrants offset all that waste by at least $15.5 trillion every year. #Pollution #LungCancer #EscalatingHealthCosts #JesusImmigrantsCleanAir #Balance #GrowFoodNotGrass #CommonSense #LiveOffTheGridLikeATruePatriot #SaveMotherMurica

So Mother Gaia is pissed that we have committed sins against Her, and we need to sacrifice western civilization and embrace our own self-destruction, in order to live life like the Blue Cat People of Pandora? Yeah, you sound like a leftist to me.

Do you support Alexandria Orcasio Corez's Green New Deal? No more airplanes, no more hamburgers, update every single building in America, give money to those unwilling to work, implement race-based policies? Yeah, I think you're verrry woke, Stan, and very lucid. You definitely understand what the pressing issues are. You should probably keep tweeting about it, and get politicians like AOC, Ilhan Omar and Bernie Sanders to speak for the left/democrats. This how you'll win elections. LOL

 

[KingDavid]

Also, if you think not allowing every who wants in is racist/xenophobic/islamaphobic/transphobic/sexist/ablist/misogynist/problematic/unrighteous/bogus , then how do you feel about other countries with merit-based immigration, like Canada? Orange Man wants our system to be more like theirs. Is Canada racist, Stan? Who should we NOT let in? In other words; what would disqualify a "nice guy" from entering the United States, in your opinion? Can you please answer that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points-based_immigration_system

 

[KingDavid]

correct I am a noncitizen living in the U.S.

You're welcome here. You used a door to get here and you are documented. But if you overstay your visa, I will personally detain you and force you to listen to country music.

 

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