Tell me what you think about the Kyle Rittenhouse case and the charges.
Criminal Justice Kyle Rittenhouse
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Morally guilty, legally innocent. I hate to agree with Chris Christie, but the way the state law is written doesn't give the legal basis to find him guilty.
Morally, protecting your own property and safety with lethal force is one thing. Going outside of your home and community to protect the property of others with lethal force is the job of trained individuals like law enforcement and national guard. What Kyle Rittenhouse did was vigilanteism in essence.
Morally, protecting your own property and safety with lethal force is one thing. Going outside of your home and community to protect the property of others with lethal force is the job of trained individuals like law enforcement and national guard. What Kyle Rittenhouse did was vigilanteism in essence.
Are you forgetting the fact that Kyle was was being attacked and had a gun drawn on him
Not at all. If I show up with a gun to a bank I suspect may be held up, I imagine I would be confronted with violence. That doesn't mean I'm not consciously acting in place of law enforcement because someone pulled a gun on me. Legally justified or not, I knowingly put my life at risk to do something I'm not trained or remotely qualified to deal with. I went looking for trouble and it found me. If I found myself in a bank and I was armed and confronted with a life threatening situation, that's self defense. If I air drop into an active war zone with a rocket launcher I'm an asshole even if the local law is loose enough there's no standing to find me guilty of any crime.
The man with the pistol who approached him should have shot him. He didn't which is a shame .Although I understand why he didn't it would have been justified. But we can debate and talk what ifs all day, it doesn't change the outcome. As soon as he is no longer useful to the right they will drop him like a rock That actually is starting to happen already. He will fade away but the issues in our society that led up to that day will continue.
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The people who attacked him were bad people though [look them up, you'll feel sick to your stomach]. Also, he was standing on his own property the entire time and only used the weapon once he was threatened.
I hear a lot of people from the left wing saying he's the problem, but as a leftie myself I don't see much of an issue.
What I think people should really be demonizing here is the the people who try to connect this all to the thing from last year in attempts to devalidate the George Floyd tragedy. The only thing race has to do with this is the fact that if a Rittenhouse kid was black, he would have totally gotten charges regardless of how legally in the right he was. Also if he was only 17-18 it's a bit weird that I don't hear anyone discussing where his parents were in all of this.
I hear a lot of people from the left wing saying he's the problem, but as a leftie myself I don't see much of an issue.
What I think people should really be demonizing here is the the people who try to connect this all to the thing from last year in attempts to devalidate the George Floyd tragedy. The only thing race has to do with this is the fact that if a Rittenhouse kid was black, he would have totally gotten charges regardless of how legally in the right he was. Also if he was only 17-18 it's a bit weird that I don't hear anyone discussing where his parents were in all of this.
He wasn't on his own property. He wasn't from that town and wasn't old enough to own property. The victims past has nothing to do with the shootings . The right likes to blame the victims in all shootings or crimes they think are justified. Don't be like the right .
Lol... for a start his mum drove him over state lines to do this !! Nowhere near his own yard !! And if he was a black teen he'd be dead... you do some research ffs
Tells you to research but gets so much wrong
The unfortunate state of America right now.
Personally I feel like everyone involved was in the wrong somehow. Regardless of who instigated or who came from where, or who's past was or wasn't questionable they all could have called each other shitheads and went their separate ways.
Honestly race had very little to do with this besides it happened in America where race means ratings.
Rittenhouse was pretty clearly acting as supplemental emergency response as if he were national guard. He had nowhere near the amount of training or experience and honestly I think his parents should've been facing manslaughter charges much like the parents of that recent school shooting.
Honestly race had very little to do with this besides it happened in America where race means ratings.
Rittenhouse was pretty clearly acting as supplemental emergency response as if he were national guard. He had nowhere near the amount of training or experience and honestly I think his parents should've been facing manslaughter charges much like the parents of that recent school shooting.
Race had little to do with the shootings. But it had everything to do with how he was treated .Do you think a black kid would have walked out of that town a free man? Or even alive ? Hell no. It also has everything to do with how he is being treated now by the right. They would not be treating a black kid who shot three white people as a hero.
Wow, you wish Kyle was murdered? Wow.
This is a lie. Use basic logic. What teen boy, with his own car AND his drivers' license, would have his mom drive him anywhere? Plus, his mom said she did not drive him. That lie just refuses to die. Logic alone says it is not true, not sure why anyone actually believes it. The AP has a fact check on it.
Lol.....
... I keep hearing this and that, so maybe instead of rudely condescending eachother we should provide sources to our arguments? Just because somebody is on a different page then you doesn't by default mean they're a moron.
Also, humans are prone to error, so just bc someone has smt wrong doesn't by default make them stupid.
You also have to keep in mind that info on the Rittenhouse case is a bit scattered because of how messy the case became in thr media. Some places will say one thing, but avoiding mentioning another detail.
Also, humans are prone to error, so just bc someone has smt wrong doesn't by default make them stupid.
You also have to keep in mind that info on the Rittenhouse case is a bit scattered because of how messy the case became in thr media. Some places will say one thing, but avoiding mentioning another detail.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ittenhouses-mother-did-not-bring-him-kenosha/
This source says the mom didn't drive him. And didn't provide the weapon either.
This apparently was also correct, my information on it happening on property that he had permission to defend/belonged to someone he knew was incorrect. It apparently happened in a parking lot.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting
I know Wikipedia is often discussed to be the source to always avoid, but Wikipedia has citations.
Also, I think to wish death upon the Rittenhouse kid is going too far. Again, as said before in the thread, race was irrelevant to the actual case, but was simply brought in because it's a current issue in the country right now.
I think it's more fair to argue that Rittenhouse was a morally misguided teenager. Do not tell me that 17-18 is an age where you've developed good decision making skills, because as someone who talks to other older teens daily and is one themself, I can verify that we still have horrible decision making skills. (The fact that I continue to log onto this website every day despite knowing it's bad for me is evidence of that)
Facts! Pun intended. No one knows everything. Opinion is one matter, but when there exists misinformation (which there always is regardless of the internet influence) it helps to be considerate of others and share what we know. The temptation to be the smartest person in the room and put people in their place for having the audacity to be ignorant can be pretty toxic. Not only does it lead to a pretty shitty experience debating the morality of a court case, but whatever point you were trying to make gets lost in people thinking you're just an asshole.
Kudos to you though for staying open to an evolving understanding of the facts! The only thing worse than a pompous know-it-all is someone who refuses to accept any information that doesn't mesh with their current opinion... one opinion to rule them all...
That being said, thus far I haven't heard anything that contradicts my original understanding that he was technically innocent, but morally in the wrong. If you go looking for trouble it's probably going to find you first.
I do not care about how developed his brain was. Or that he was 17. He was old enough to get a gun he was not legally allowed to own. Cross state lines to look for trouble and shoot three people killing two. You are making excuses.
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