There have got to be religions without love. I mean, 5,000+ chances...
true religion is to love
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I have issues with the statement in the thread title tbh.
1. What is 'true' religion?
2. To love what exactly?
Surely most religions serve as a moral framework to base your life around and can include references and teachings on retribution, an eye for an eye, systems of self-governance, commandments, etc. In fact the only religion I can think of that promotes love as a core tenet is one of the abrahamic ones; Christianity.
Unsure about Buddhism, maybe they teach abstract notions of loving something too. I always thought theirs was one indifference to everything, dunno.
1. What is 'true' religion?
2. To love what exactly?
Surely most religions serve as a moral framework to base your life around and can include references and teachings on retribution, an eye for an eye, systems of self-governance, commandments, etc. In fact the only religion I can think of that promotes love as a core tenet is one of the abrahamic ones; Christianity.
Unsure about Buddhism, maybe they teach abstract notions of loving something too. I always thought theirs was one indifference to everything, dunno.
Buddhism teaches non attachment. Non attachment is the idea that in order to be fulfilled and happy in life, a person cannot be attached to any one thing because this thing can cause suffering.
If you gain material possessions through hard work then that is completely fine. A lot of people incorrectly believe you need to give away everything to be a good Buddhist. Buddhism encourages gaining material possessions through hard work. It is when you gain material goods without working for it that is the problem
If I am correct gaining with effort is fine, it is to also not have an attachment to the "fruits of your labour" or what you have gained.
Why is gaining stuff at no cost a bad thing? We live only once. However well-meaning some religions are, they don't matter once we're dead.
First of, I think this is mostly just the modern major ones. There are many religions and religious groups that embrace hate. For example, Anton Lavey, founder of the church of Satan once said
“Why should I not hate mine enemies―if I ‘love’ them does that not place me at their mercy?”
There are also many religious groups and schools of thought that are based almost entirely around hate, like the esoteric fascism Julius Evola, the Klu Klux Klan, or Westburo Baptist Church.
Amongst those that do teach love, they often teach other things that are just as important, for example, Christians generally teach a belief in a Triune God, and most Buddhists teach that there is no permanent self.
“Why should I not hate mine enemies―if I ‘love’ them does that not place me at their mercy?”
There are also many religious groups and schools of thought that are based almost entirely around hate, like the esoteric fascism Julius Evola, the Klu Klux Klan, or Westburo Baptist Church.
Amongst those that do teach love, they often teach other things that are just as important, for example, Christians generally teach a belief in a Triune God, and most Buddhists teach that there is no permanent self.
(smile) Buddhism may not be a 'true' religion, depending on how you define religion. Buddism teaches non-attachment, which is different from indifference. You can care about something without being attached to it. Non-attachment can help you embrace your empathy and connection to people around you. Buddhism teaches unconditional love, love that is not possessive.
I agree with your issues about the thread title. What is true religion and how is a system of beliefs associated with a particular emotion?
(laughing) All those statements would depend on your religion and your religious beliefs. Some would say that God provides for those that believe in Him/Her/Them. Some believe that we live more than once. Some would say that your religious beliefs are only important once your body is dead!
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Yes! Any attachment can affect your happiness, but happiness may be overrated.
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One thing that could "matter," could mean 5,000 different things on the "afterlife," as there are over 5,000 religions. Convince me that all 5,000 different meaning regarding same thing do matter. (laughing)
(laughing) Which was exactly my point! You are welcome to believe whatever you believe. I would never try to convince you of anything that has to do with religion! But, just because there are 5000+ sets of beliefs, doesn't mean one of them can't be 'true' or 'correct'.
Either all religions are correct or none are. You can't believe one thing and dismiss 4,999 others. It's so rude. There are older religions as well, which are laughing at new false religions. (laughing)
This doesn’t hold up. If you apply this logic consistently, no one could ever have any option on nearly any philosophical question, because in doing so, you would be claiming the thousands of others views were wrong, and yours was right. But this is itself a philosophical position. Therefore, your view is self refuting.
That's precisely what many religions do. Some even kill for that.
(smile) It would depend on what you mean by 'correct', but, technically, all religions could be correct, if they all see one particular aspect of a whole (yes, we are stretching the point here), some could be correct or none could be correct. It may be rude to single out one particular religion, but that does not mean that particular religion is not 'correct' or 'true' or based on reality.
It is normal for people who believe in something to share those beliefs with others and try to convince them their beliefs are the correct ones. That is true of religion, science, politics, love, or sports. Some belittle others' beliefs and some try to force their beliefs on others, but that has to do with people and not the belief systems themselves.
Uhh, did you just mix science with religion and attempt to pass off science as make-belief or magic? (smiles)
Just out of curiosity, how would you define your religious beliefs? Are you Atheistic, which is a religion in its own right, agnostic, or do you simply have your own personal beliefs about God?
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