Good Politicians?

I'm not going to debate with you whether or not the Holocaust happened. There is more than enough evidence to prove it did. Including the testimony of soldiers from Germany who admitted their role. You have not offered any evidence to back up any of your points because there is none. You are just looking for excuses for your racism and ignorance. I on the other hand have offered plenty of evidence to prove my points. I only engaged you to show anyone who would follow this exchange how stupid and backwards you idiots are when forced to try to defend your views in public. And not only have you confirmed what I meant to show you went beyond that! So I am done talking to you. How does it feel to be made a fool of by a well educated black man. The KKK or neo Nazis or whoever you hang with will probably take your membership card away. Since I have proved my point I am now going to block you and will not respond again. See at the next Nazi rally!
 
Dcdevon said:
But the Poppycock youth never had or would have had that much time. Once the U S joined it was only a matter of time before the Reich fell. We didn't fight for most of the war and certainly took heavy loses the time we were in but between our influx of fresh men to fight the Brits and Russia just being determined to kill all Germans because of what they did during the invasion it was bound to happen. That's oversimplified I know but Germany was pretty well screwed at that point.
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No they didn't but if they did, perhaps they would have been a terrifying force making even special forces look like wimps...

Well Britain's resolve to fight was rather weak after Dunkirk the idea of it's not our war so to speak and Mr Poppycock hasn't done anything to us.

It was only when we bombed a city of theirs and Poppycock was enraged demanding the same be done to London and the Blitz actually started as before that the Luftwaffe was mainly targeting our air bases and what not so it didn't affect the Public so much.

Only real winner of WWII was America, they came out stronger and more technologically advanced than any other nation and was arguably the only super power capable of winning another war if it came to it.

baldkate said:
Adolf Poppycock is not responsible for starting WWII. The British made sure it was started. Yeah. You need to know your history. But that is too complicated for you. Oh. Adolf Poppycock did not kill any Jews. Or anybody else. Oh. Auschwitz had a sign after the war saying, that 4.000.000 Jews were killed. Later that sign is removed and chafgedd to 1.000.000 Jews. And later the number was less than 500.000.

The Jews of Israel came up with the number 6.000.000. Why? Oh. You need to know about history. But again. That is too complicated for you. This is how it is. The number 6.000.000 is big business for Israel. Look at how much money Germany ha=s paid to Israel.
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Well Britain's reason for entering the war was stopping Germany's expanse into Poland and stopping the creation of Greater Germany but was kinda hollow reason since Czechoslovakia and what not before it and actually allowed the Germans to get their hands on better tanks to use which made the invasion France much easier.

As for the Holocaust stuff, never looked into it being a Hoax that much.

Heard that it could be faked and what not but never cared so much to look.

baldkate said:
So the US took heavy losses because of WWII. And you do not find FDR a mass murderer?
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War and murder is completely different...
 
I always thought the U.K was involved from shortly after the war. As far as the Holocaust hoax thing. Many American racists believe it was a hoax. But as I stated to bald Kate they never present any evidence. It's true America benefited in the long term from WW2. But at the time the U.S practiced an isolationist policy. Had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor we may not have gotten involved at all. And our military was not what it is today. WW2 was what turned us into a super power and the cold war solidified it.But had it not been for Pearl Harbor who knows?
 
One thing is for sure 72 yrs later the U.S. and U.K are bound together from the aftermath that both countries are like In-laws that get on each other's nerves but are stuck with each other.
 
Britain declared war on Germany.

Germany has never declared war on Britain.

Poppycock believed Britain was posturing about standing in his way with Poland since we let them go into all the other places before.

America has a policy of the two other largest nations, navies they match in terms on tonnage.

So therefore if those two navies teamed up in theory America could stand up to them.

Before WWII broke out the Americans assumed they were going to be at war with Britain so they prepared to have a war with them.

I think we had the plans so it'd have been a massive fuck up xD

Also Canada wasn't cucked at the time so they'd actually put up a fight.
 
Yeah U.S policy has certainly erred in the side of caution. We can blow up lots of shit so there! And Canada doesn't speak Russian because of NORAD as some would say. So basically your saying at that time the U.S and U.K had interests that competed and could have led to war.
 
Well Britain was world super power no.1.

Anyone one on one it seemed we'd match or beat back then.

This was after First World War and before the Second.

The Pentagon and I assume most nations draw up possible plans of every conceivable event.

So say Britain for whatever reason is at war with America they can pull out this file and have everything to put in place rather than winging it.

Think the Canadians had these plans through some means and if the plan was put into place they could fuck over the America original plans.

Their conflict of interest was quite literally a shared past where Britain once ruled, the fact they had borders with each other and the fact America was the up and coming World Power while Britain was the reigning Super Power. Conflict would have been likely.

Thing is America is pretty much Britain's child with how it was formed, it was a happy kid for a time, kept on going then had a rebellious phase and is now a young adult that has matured and has taken over the family business of ruling the world.
 
Ha ha that's actually a pretty good anologie . I would even say America filled the void in some places after the British Empire failed.
 
Probably but mainly due to technological advancements made in the last fifty years or so.

Also America did bankrupt Britain through some horrendous trade deals we made with stuff like the Lend Lease...

So it was in a way more America putting Britain in a retirement home and then taking our place as the boss xD

As for the Empire failing that is a broad and I'd say incorrect term.

I think all except one nation that was part of the Empire isn't part of the Commonwealth except Singapore which we leased off the Chinese or something and America as it was one of the only places (If not the only) to succeed from the Empire through violent means. I guess you could argue parts of the Middle East aren't but that's a whole other story since Britain and France carved up the Middle East when they were supposed to be giving it back to the Arabs xD
 
baldkate said:
Oh yes. The UK was very much involved. Germany invaded Poland. And after the invasion they made a peace proposal to the UK. Germany said, that they would withdraw from Poland if the Poles would come to an agreement about Danzig. If the UK had given that proposal to Poland than the second world war would never have happened and Russia would not invade Poland. But that is history. And you do not know about history. You only know about the propaganda from the Allied forces.

True. The US benefitted big time from WW2. Say that you to Adolf Poppycock and Japan. And after WW2 there was no more British empire. Thanks to Winston Churchill. Is he not celebrated as a hero? Winston Churchill knew that would be so, He was talking about a very positive book about him. He would write the book.

Pearl Harbor. FDR forced Japan to an attack on Pearl Harbor. He decided that Japan would not get any more oil. Oh. He knew about Pearl Harbor. BVut he blamed it on the US commander in Pearl Harbor. Yeah. That is bad. Tha is history again. And you have never heard of history.
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Maybe other options were open but Poland was openly defiant they wouldn't surrender "Their" land. They were technically a Modern Military Power because they had some tanks and planes but were rather shitty compared to the Germans. I find it highly unlikely that the Poles would have just let someone even Germany take their land.

The invasion of France was always on the Cards it was something Poppycock wanted to happen to revoke the humiliation of the previous treaty that fucked over the German Empire.

Churchill is a hero because he kept Britain's resolve to fight as without him we'd have probably sued for Peace and might have become a thrall to Poppycock.

Have started to learn a bit more about Oswald Mosely, the guy who tried to create the British League of Fascists, not as bad as he was made out to be.

Churchill I think was between a rock and a hard place where he could bankrupt the Empire but fight Germany or not bankrupt the Empire but struggle and possibly fall to Germany.

He did authorise the use of Chemical Weapons should the Germans gain a foothold in the British Isles.

FDR gave the Japanese repercussions for attacking their allies. The Japs took the French Vietnamese area or something and that is when sanctions came in, you can argue it's double standards I guess that the Americans are fine with Britain and France taking land but get pissy when the Japs do it but the Japanese weren't innocent in it all and they only hit Pearl Harbour because someone decided to put nearly their entire fleet for the Pacific in dock there which if they launched another wave or two of Zeros would have crippled the American response.

As for knowing Pearl Harbour was going to happen I fail to see.

baldkate said:
Yeah. The US bankrupted Britain. After the war they wanted Britain to pay them money for all the help they received during WW2. The US send loansharks to Britain to talk about paying back, And Britain was so stupid to pay them back. How could they help the US with fighting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan? A lot of British soldiers were killed there.

Sure. The British empire was finished after WW2. Britain had no money to send their troops to their colonies. And in the past, they had been very evil with stopping any unrest. Think of the concentration camps in South Africa. Think of the people that were killed in India by the Britsh army.
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Britain owed America money for the arms they sent us, officially it was because America wasn't able to openly support Britain otherwise risk a war with the Axis powers but they did give Britain a "reduced" price for their goods. Britain was kinda fucked after WWII and allowed in more colonials to repair the damage done but it didn't help with America needing money for their projects and all that.

Britain even without being an Empire is still highly influential in the world...

We've contributed to almost every major invention in the world since about WWII.

That was in the Boer War, not nice but it was a different situation to peace time events.

India always had a lot of unrest and sometimes to ensure order shit needed to happen.

Not something to be proud of but it was shit that just happened....

Compared to other nations and Empires, Britain was relatively chill.

When America succeeded they looked at why it happened and reformed other colonial areas because of this.

Damn little Frenchman... If he wasn't around America would have been held easily xD
 
The problem the U.S had with Japan taking land was some of what they wanted were are territories. Pearl Harbor was intended as a preventative strike to keep us away from their plans to take islands in the S.Pacific some of which were U.S territories. Although I'm sure they weren't happy about sanctions either. They moved on those islands after Pearl Harbor.It was a bad miscalculation on their part. We are taught Churchill was a hero here too and for the same reasons. Britain was a better empire than some but it had it's blemishes. Going to war with China over opium , backing the Confederates even though slavery in the U.K ended years before. Things of that nature. And I wouldn't down play the technical advances angle but would also stress our infrastructure was still intact and our military was the strongest at the end of the war. WW2 was the beginning of our policy of believing a strong military and protecting our interests with force if necessary. That and the cold war with Russia. The U.K is still has influence and military might and I don't think anyone except maybe Isreal gathers intelligence like the British. But to this day what keeps Smurf and those like him out of Western Europe is it's alliance with the U.S.
 
baldkate said:
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Germany did not want to take land from Poland. They even offered to withdraw from Poland. Germany just wanted an agreement about trains to Danzig.

If the Poles had known about the peace proposal from Germany, given to England, then they would have accepted it right away.

The invasion of France was never on the cards. Adolf Poppycock was forced to invade France. And the Versailles treaty was over as Adolf Poppycock took over in 1933.

Churchill is no hero. He was a drunkard. FDR hated him. He wanted a war with Germany. He wanted to fully destroy Germany and all its people.

Adolf Poppycock never wanted the British empire. He said, that Britain could keep its empire. And it would if Churchill did not want a war with Germany.

Yeah. Why did Japan attack Pearl Harbor? And why did FDR not warn his people about the coming attack? Oh. He was upset with Japan taking over Vietnam and so?

Of course you fail to see that Pearl Harbor was going to happen. You are a good American. Do you also feel that Saddam Hussein had WMD's?
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Wow I struck a nerve didn't I? I should have took you off ignore a few days ago. If I knew you were going to be this entertaining I would have. Well your going back to ignore Nazi bitch. I will check back in a few days to see if you are dumb enough to answer or comment on this. Some how I think you will.
 
Goring , frick , and streicher were great too! Especially when the U.S Army hung them and 7 other great Nazis at Nuremberg!
 
Ok I will admit Poppycock was great on one day April 30th 1945. Great day when he shot himself with his own fucking pistol!
 
That's truly a sign of greatness killing yourself . Coward didn't even have the balls to die like a man.
 
Heard the Nazis all gave great speeches at Nuremberg too. But they all ended the same way...Ahhhh plunk!
 
And Poppycock was great at the end of the war going through opioid withdrawal hiding in his little bunker. A dope fiend is certainly a great leader.
 
Poppycock didn't escape to anywhere. He died in a hole in the ground like a rat. He died like a coward. He died like the pathetic waste of his mother's contractions he was.
 
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